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People Who Try Too Hard - - Whoever could you mean??? LOL http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/forum http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/conversationalist If there is an ongoing debate in the forum (it's usually called a discussion... The very point of a forum), then wouldn't you agree that the likelihood of someone involved in a conversation, posting more than one time, is pretty damn good? Ask yourselves, how many one sentence or one statement conversations have you had in life? People who enjoy or seek this in forums are called "conversationalists". It's not wrong to get to know others. That is, after all, the reason we are all here. The poster puts their view out and the reader can decide whether they agree, disagree or desire to further discuss or elaborate on their side. It's like a dance of the minds. Some like the waltz, some like salsa, while others like a Mosh Pit. Just because you don't mosh doesn't mean that you should attempt to deny others of enjoying it. Tolerance is what I am getting at. I am a self-proclaimed asshole, but I still have the right to express myself. I have differing views from lots of people here. That's what I find to be beautiful about people. We are all unique in some form or another. It's uncovering those uniquities, I find to be the "buried treasures" among the vast diversity of people that post here. It's a small window into their being. You don't always like what you see, but it's still there no matter how much you complain. It's like those who had DJQ kicked off of here. I hated his views and all for which he stood, but in the end all he was guilty of was written expression of his view. Many wanted his head to roll and had him removed. Why? Because he didn't agree. Hell, he attacked my very service to this country. I hated his views. However, I still think he had the right to speak his heart. Admittedly, The forum became slightly less exciting after he left. The majority who read the forum remember what a prick he was, but they do remember him. He contributed to the conversation, no matter how skewed we felt his leftist position to be. I'll close my post with this... We are swingers... Don't you think people would disagree with our lifestyle choices, our views on marriage and the morale implications (if you are religious)? Furthermore, doesn't it all come down to personal choice. Just like you have the choice not to read this very post. :-) Just my thoughts, nothing more. Respectfully, -Mr TR- P.S. I whole-heartedly invite you to tell me to fuck off for my differing view. :-)

Seeking mormon swingers - - I used to be Mormon

Peta....are you a fan? - Their "State of the Union" message. - "If you do not wish to read or write in topics outside of the realm of swinging, then you shouldn't adventure in those areas. Just my two cents." Could not agree more, you will never see me writing in one of the "poke your fellow swinger's in the eye posts" And just for the record "Mr. TR" I've read some of your "rants" and probably agree 97.2 of everything you say "Politically". But my thinking is there's about 16 million places to "Get Political" on the Web..... Why choose a group which accounts for about 2-5 percent of the U.S. population (including YOU) to pick a fight? Why post in a "little pond" of a bunch of swingers?..

PARTY!!!!!!!!!! PARTY!!!!!!!!!! PARTY!!!!!!!!!! - Laborday Lust-A-Thon in Minneapolis, MN - Well hello one and all. Summer is almost over, so what better way to say goodbye than to have a kickass party!!!! I'm pretty sure when our founding fathers first put quill to paper they had the hope that they were creating a new land based on the premise of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness....LET'S GET SOME HAPPINESS YA'LL We gonna have a Labor day Lust-A-Thon!!!! Come on out Labor Day weekend and celebrate your day away from the man the way only swingers know how, by exercising your constitutional right to party!!!!!!! When I thought up the idea of having a Labor Day party, some thought I was mad, some thought I was crazy...THE FOOLS!!!! (cue maniacal laughter) This looks like it will be one of the BIGGEST turnouts ever, and it's all happening because of you......kudos. The festivities will begin on Friday September 3rd with a get together/bar meet at Jillian's High Life Lanes in Bloomington, Minnesota (that's in the Mall Of America) from 8 pm till. E402 E. Broadway Bloomington, MN 55425 952.854.5483 If you've never been there it used to be Gatlin Brothers Music City. Next to Players Restaurant, and across from Gators. We meet in the bowling alley by the bowling ball rack by the last bowling lane (We'll be the rowdy folks on the couch). There is no charge. Then the Fun continues with a party on Saturday Sept. 4th starting at 8:00 p.m. which will continue into the night of Sunday Sept. 5th. The donation for this little endeavor is 10.00 American per cpl or single (to cover expenses) and a dish to share with other party goers (chips, salad, etc.) And we'll supply the 2 King BR suite with full kitchen and the buffalo wings (we're ordering 200, so bring an appetite) And the weekend will wind down with a potluck cookout on Labor Day Monday September 6th at Como Park in St. Paul. Come on down and party up . Bring your friends, your lovers, your neighbors (since it IS that kinda party) , or that special couple you've just been dying to break in. So come on out, release the freak, and party with the big dogs (If you miss it, don't hate yourself too much....you're still a good person gosh darn it!!). To get on the list just email [email protected] Let's make the Labor Day Lust-A-Thon out to be one of the biggest freak fests in the upper Midwest, and try to make sure we have more partying than the law allows. Come one come all, and lets make a memory Ya'll!!! Labor Day Lust-A-Thon.....It's not just a party, It's an event!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even a knife may shatter. Even a man may fall.

Cumming - In pussy or mouth - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=Utahldscouple]Do you have to choose?[/quote] Not sure what you are asking exactly? If the universe really is totally cause and effect, 100% deterministic, and it only feels like we are choosing, then we don't have to choose, because we really can't choose. If it's not, and we are free to choose, then every decision is a choice. If you mean do we have to choose between playing bareback in an exclusive pre-tested group and or playing with or without protection, outside of the group, well, that's relative to whatever honest agreement the people within the group have chosen and abide by. We have spent more time as swingers outside of any such group. Whether we do or don't agree to play with someone, and then what we all agree to do and or not to do together, with any playmates we meet, always involves some discussion about safety practices and other factors. So out in the general swinger's population there are a lot more maybes which come down to choosing. [/quote] Was saying why choose if in the pussy or in the mouth. If you have a group, can't you get both :D? All lighthearted!

Vegas next month - - we can only speak for what we like: zumanity and absinthe are fun and SEXY. copperfield: was great, chris angel = HORRIBLE carrot top: we've seen 3 times, and he updates his show regularly. you will be pleasantly surprised. gordy browne: we've seen 3 times funny and a great variety show any cirque' show is worth seeing, dress up and have a fun date night together. laugh factory & brad garrett's comedy clubs are fun, but really not any better than the cheaper ones you can find @ the discount ticket booths. free concerts on the weekend @ Fremont experience, + great place to people watch! you could go to any of the topless pools, but you DO have to pay to get in. best value is buying a lounger because it comes with food and drink. couples oasis: a private swingers club, huge variety of people that go artisan hotel is a fun and sexy boutique hotel, not well known, but a lot better than any of the swingers clubs. do NOT stay there if you want peace and quiet. western sahara: sex & stripper shops for fun & sexy clothing we go to vegas monthly because we live nearby, and we stay somewhere different each time. sometimes down town, sometimes on the strip, and sometimes @ a Hilton, or embassy suites. for us, we don't do the topless pools anymore. kinda a "been there, done that" thing for us. also because of the extra cost to get in. it's been over 4 years since we've been to couples oasis. but the rest of our opinions are very current. we discovered we are getting older, ouch!! we went to Omnia, and HATED the synth dance music. we prefer r&b and 80 & 90's rock and roll. to get in was $50.00, drinks were $17-22 each, water $7.00. go to Tao, the food is great, and when you are ready to dance, you bypass the long line outside by just going upstairs. if you don't get to vegas often, go to the strip, TONZ of things to see have extra time, go down town, go to pawn stars, vamped, capo's, etc..

Slow Dancing in SLC? - Any clubs for that? - [quote=EVILDOERS]Hmmmm complaining that Salt Lake (okay Sandy) is too far to drive. Yep, you're definitely a geezer. [em]Emo_67[/em] [/quote]LOL -- I think the point was that this Club 90 place MAY have music a bit toned down and MIGHT play a few slower song choices? So driving an hour and a half for something that might be available locally seems unnecessary? Given events, let me put it to you this way. This particular swinger enjoys her unicorns with their horns placed a tad further south as compared to male-dominated swingers such as yourself. So lets take that hour and a half and assign it an "Opportunity Cost" as if we're in a basic economics class. Instead of driving, that time could be spent on any of the following: At an establishment of fine dining enjoying a romantic dinner. In a Blues/jazz bar chatting up a few local men, eventually swaying together on a tiny dance floor. Back at home, sunggling naked, sandwiched between two handsome men while Fogerty, Adele, Chili Peppers, and other music too tame for the younger crowd plays in the background. Relaxing with a couple glasses of wine, and a pile of blankets before the fire. Having the fire within sated. Waking the next morning, with no hangover, and remembering. Perma-grin hits. Still plenty of time and energy to make church by 10, and hit the gym by noon. Ah, yes, if this is your definition of geezer, I embrace it. Whole-heartedly, repeatedly, and with great zeal. :)

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - My previous comment was in no way intended to say that soldiers are immoral. We need them and they provide a courageous service for all of us. Just to say that those who seem extreme (the gang banger) may be acting in a way we can understand and possibly relate to.

whatkind of pron is most people interested in? - Speak your mind... - His preference, amatuer/group you know swingers lol. Hers Girl/Girl and lots of toys.

How can a single male stand out? - We single males have a (understandable) bad rep. - In light of one of the above responses I felt compelled to add that, first of all, not everyone wants a "stud". Most, in fact, want a polite, respectful, handsome and fit guy to enhance their lifestyle experience. If you are one of the all too frequent single males who mistakenly think that all or even most married guys here are basically cucks, to quote Thumper on South Park, "...you're gonna have a bad time." And yes, many women like confident men but there is a very fine line between confidence and cockiness. I guarantee that if you fall onto the cockiness side of the equation you're probably only going to hit it off with the very small minority of swingers who ARE into the cuck lifestyle. Also, don't talk or act like playing in the lifestyle is your own personal porno. The above advice goes for married guys too, by the way, but this thread is about SM's.