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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Very thought provoking. Thanks. :-) I think it's also safe to say that for most, like me, the forum is an entertainment tool and nothing more. I do not walk away from it carrying any feelings of contempt... Ever. -D-

Can you be in love AND swing? If so, tell us how! - - Just what the hell is a life coach? Is that the new name people, without the proper education, training, and licensure, who counsel others are calling themselves today? I am a professional counselor, licensed and trained to do what I do. My Lady and I met on line at a swingers site and met over coffee at a local public pub. We ended back at her place for a great evening of sex....after an even better afternoon of intelligent conversation. That was two years ago and we have been together ever since. She has moved in with me, carries her own weight in all ways helping run "our" home. We swing, or would not be on this sight....lol, together and seperately. We are deeply in love and have decided to get married, because we do love, respect, cherish, honor and trust each other. Distrust and worry has nothing to do with playing with others, if you trust your partner, have done your own self examination and healed your own life wounds. Our sex life is absolutely GREAT!!!! Our swinging with other people is fun and an enhancement to our love making. I love to see the smile on her face, the spring in her step, and the gleem in her eye after she has been with one of her lovers...male or female. She loves to hear whether or not I had a good time and enjoyed myself with another lover. We may play seperately at times, but I know she is coming home to me...that is where her heart is! And I will always come home to her because that is where my heart and soul are! My professional discipline teaches to respect others and work with the client where they are. I am not to judge them or impose my values on them. When seeking guidance or help from a helping professional...and I mean licensed, trained professonal....do not ask their advise, nor follow their moral code. Each of us is a unique individual with different moral values, belief systems, and desires. As long as we are not harming another being or ourselves, then all is fair, fun, and healthy. Anything may be overindulged in...therefore, moderation is the key. If I drink too much I may be an alcoholic which is a problem, if I drink heavily I may just be a heavy drinker...the key is whether or not what I am doing harms others, my self or results in problems in my life or the life of people I love. You are correct in questioning whether or not swinging is for you, and if it results in any discomfort for either of you, talk openly and non-judgementally with each other. Love, as the saying goes, means never having to say your sorry. But love is open, trusting, non-threating, non-controlling, and is open to the opinions of each other. Because I deeply and honestly love my Lady and she me....her happiness and pleasure is more important than any thing to me. As one individual stated this will be my third marriage too. She completes me like no other person can. Best of hard work to get where you are comfortable looking at your mate and your self in the mirror....it well worth it what ever you decide.

stop being so vanilla - - Most of our friends are in the lifestyle and those that are vanilla know about it. So when the vanilla men see an attractive girl, the suddenly return to infancy, drooling while hoping to see a glance of a boob and get to suck on it. Always pisses them off when they point out an attractive girl to me and I respond "ahh, I have better looking girlfriends then that." I have told them they are so vanilla and one guy thought it was a racial slur. Another told his brother what I say about being so vanilla and his brother told him it is a swingers term to refer to guys like you. After a bit of conversation the brothers learned the one I don`t know is in the lifestyle and the one I am friends with is very curious now.

B_k_lovers - Getting over first-time jitters - ^^Most definitely Honestly, a large part of the lifestyle (in our experience) is figuring out what you want and how to communicate that with other couples. Personally, I would not just strip unless I'm sure all 4+ people are on the same page. They did a few seminars on this topic at Young Swingers Week in Jamaica last week. There were some good pointers there, such as using body language/touch (shoulder is casual, elbow is more interested, small of back is intimate) and gauging reactions. Or giving the other couple plenty of chances to say "yes" either through word or action by opening up opportunities to do so. One of the things that we like to do as a couple is invite another couple (or single friend, or small group) over to play naughty board games. Turns out you can turn any game into a strip game if you're creative enough, and that's a good way to allow people to ease into whatever their comfort level is. Every gets as naked as they feel is comfortable, then you can start swapping "favors" or "truth or dare" style challenges or whatever instead of stripping once you're as naked as you want to be.

Are you still interested! - Dynamics amoung swingers - Actually, we can't seem to figure out what the f...k anybody in "the lifestyle" wants. It is becoming one of the most frustrating things we have ever done. Everyone seems to have all these issues, rules, drama, etc., etc. I thought we were all just trying to have some sexual fun. It's almost like a second job. Geez!

Dirty movie quotes. - New game - SOME people aren't doing this right and seem to think they don't need to follow the rules! Who would have thought that swingers were rule breakers?!!? ;-P So Imma go to the last ones who DID follow the rules to continue the game. LOL [quote=UTFunTime][quote=EVILDOERS] HA! LOVE IT! Blade Trinity. The movie was kinda, "Meh," But I really loved Ryan Reynold's 'Hannibal King', I think that character was totally what gave rise to his Deadpool persona. :-) Let's see if anyone gets this one. "Now, I'm the only one in town... who'll do double anal and double vaginal at the same time. You know, DVDA."[/quote] I admit I had to cheat and look that one up to confirm my thought. I've only seen Orgasmo once so I couldn't be sure it was from that. Lol Yeah, I can totally see Hannibal King giving rise to his Deadpool persona. Lol Let's see if anyone gets this... "Oh, fuck my cock"[/quote] Hmmmm, that's a tough one. I'm going to say every porno EVER! LOL I really don't know but I'll guess maybe, "Zack and Miri Make A Porno"? Let's see if anyone can get THIS dirty line. "Christie, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it."

What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - Your profile is clear, this type of site is appropriate for you and some couples just want sex and nothing else. We would have answered just as you did and thought nothing of it. We expect friendships before play, if you are not the type to be friendship quality, why would we want to have sex with you. There are some Bi ladies on these sites but most don't have the time to waste on them like the single guys do. Read our profile, you may find more what you want with soft swingers with Bi ladies where they will respect your wish not to have sex with the other male. Good luck and keep looking, you will find what you want eventually...Frank and Diana

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - [quote=ABCCOUPLE]My wife and I like to enjoy a round or two on occasion, but not with the current weather.. I really am getting annoyed by this weather.[/quote] Have you two played Sleepy Ridge in Orem? I love that course!

Swingular Changing name to: - I think Swingular should change it's name to "Hateular" - To the single men. You touched on something that always pisses me off. Swinging is about sharing. Since you have nothing to share you have no rights. Single men are not swingers and not part of the LS. Just like the toys in the draw you come out when you are called for. Otherwise keep quiet. You are just looking for a little free pussy to be blunt. You are to cheap to pay for it. Just to be clear we have played with single men.

Hostile pricks in the lifestyle - - sorry...Male here... Whoever said something about your wife being grown in alaska...I would like to have one grown...Can you tell me which garden? COme on...Do not be greedy with the info...We could use one...I would have taken it as a compliment....but I like whales and think your wife is a fox... As to the to old to fat comment...A lot of people are "fantasy swingers" and as soon as they have some sort of real contact, they have to quickly find an excuse to turn you off...and what woman, no matter how big she is, would NOT be turned off by that comment? So to all your swinging people...I have a motto I live by...and I will share oit with you... FUCK THEM ALL BUT ONE...NEED SOMEONE TO LIGHT THE FIRE...AND I HOPE THAT ASSHOLE LIGHTS HIS SHIRT ON FIRE DOING IT!!!! Not that everyone is an asshole, but a lot are, and thusly the fuck them all attitude...BUt then again..I am an asshole to...I just hide it better than some others ;)