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Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote] Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate. [quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote] Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc. [quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote] Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified. Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun! Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. [quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote] Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view.... [quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote] I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc. What are the consequences of violating societal rules? Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there. Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?). IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically. Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders. Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate... Next!

Fantasy Friday - Share them! - I know it's only Thursday (or Thorsday, if you prefer) but Friday can NOT get here fucking soon enough so I'm going to start this a little early and see if it can get some traction that will carry this thread into the weekend. We thought it might be fun to share some of our naughtiest sexual fantasies with each other. Let's either share some written fantasies or, maybe, even some pics or gifs (or videos!) of any fantasies that are rolling around in your brain right now, or that HAVE rolled around in there in the past, or that might pop up based on something you read about someone else's fantasy. This is the place to post your deepest, darkest, wildest sex thoughts even if it might be something you don't necessarily ever want to act out. Oh, and just for fun, please post a "Yes", "No", or "Maybe" about each fantasy depending on whether it's something you def would like to happen, def DON'T ever want to happen IRL, or MAYBE would like to happen given the right circumstances and/or people involved. And PLEASE, no judgments about someone else's fantasy...unless it like involves kids or something illegal or really disgusting. Who knows, maybe it will strike a chord with other swingers and it might start a dialog or something that could lead to meeting people IRL who share your fantasy and want to help you fulfill it. I'll start it off with a fairly mainstream one of Ms. Evil's and this is a 'maybe' but most likely closer to a 'yes'! :-) [img]https://images.sex.com/images/pinporn/2016/07/21/620/16187171.gif[/img]

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Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=UTCPL][quote=UTBIPLAYMATE]We would love to try both DP and DVP. It's one of my favorite fantasies!! ;)[/quote] We've done dvp a few times & love it. Never dp though. [/quote] Would love to help you out with that

Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=WILDONEZ2004][quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah. When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah. Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance. And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them. If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck. Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote] Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote] When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.[/quote] Well said!

Swinger cruise - YOLO cruise on Carnival Legend (April 26th) - BEACHWITHUS We know exactly how you feel. Funny how rules begin to change after people have paid their money. We had friends that went on the Nudist Cruise on the same ship, the Carnival Legend, a couple of years ago. They said you could be nude anywhere except the main dining room. And as soon as the ship left the various ports you could be nude again...meaning nudity was allowed every evening. I guess we swingers can't be trusted with our own nudity. :( Hopefully they won't add more ridiculous rules and suck the fun out of this cruise. We're keeping our fingers crossed :) Tony and Irina

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=GOODWINE5646]I was a journalist and I know Heidi. Hers was a reasonable, balanced report that focused on one woman who clearly had an awful experience. I'm sad she focused on a couple who were LDS. From our experience, I suspect she represents the majority who "try" swinging. There was a TV story done many years that was far worse than this one.[/quote] Please explain how you define "balanced." A balanced report on one woman's experience? The woman she reports on was abused. "Looking back, Susan said she feels like she was groomed into the lifestyle." "It was a lot of pushing by my ex-husband, a lot of coercing. He had friends call and talk to me about it." This is typical of an abusive relationship. She was thrown into the lifestyle to cure her relationship, let's also talk about the other abused women forced to do things they aren't interested in, that would be balanced. Also, "but she contracted the STD after he engaged in solo sex with another woman." Interesting, this solo woman could have been a swinger, a woman he picked up at a bar, a church function, or even a prostitute. Not a very clear report on this abusers sexual escapades. I'm just glad "Suzan" was still wearing her black ring..

The Real Hotwives of Phoenix Hotel Takeover! - A Weekend Catered To Hotwife Couples, Cuckold Couples & Select Single Men - April 13th-16th, 2023 www.playhouselv.com Join PlayhouseLV and Front Porch Swingers for a weekend you won't soon forget! This 3-day takeover is held at a boutique hotel in the heart of Phoenix for hotwife couples, cuckold couples, and respectful single men. Theme Nights Allow your imaginations to run wild, and join us for themed dance parties! Thursday, April 13th: Glow Night! Friday, April 14th: Toga Party! Toga, Toga, TOGA! Need we say more? Saturday, April 15th: White-Out/All-White Party! Daytime Pool Parties Take a splash in the oasis-style pool, make new connections, and enjoy an array of sexy and entertaining pool games! Friday, April 14th: Metallic Swimsuit Party Saturday, April 15th: Welcome to the jungle! Sport your wildest animal print suits! 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Room amenities include: Comfortable 400 sq ft room Non-smoking King bed 42" flat-screen TV Extra-wide safe Desk & Dresser. Weekend Package- Jr Suite 2 Queen Room: This includes one hotel room (3 nights) for either a couple or single, weekend passes to all pool parties and nightly-themed parties, and access to the indulgence spaces. Check-in is Thursday, April 13th, and checking out Sunday, April 16th. Room amenities include: Comfortable 400 sq ft room Non-smoking Two queen beds 42" flat-screen TV Extra-wide safe Desk & Dresser. Weekend Package- King Standard Room: This includes one hotel room (3 nights) for either a couple or single, weekend passes to all pool parties and nightly-themed parties, and access to the indulgence spaces. Check-in is Thursday, April 13th, and checking out Sunday, April 16th. Room amenities include a Comfortable 325 sq ft room Non-smoking One king bed 42" flat-screen TV Extra-wide safe Desk & Dresser. Single Male "Room Roulette" Weekend Package This includes access to all events throughout the weekend, as well as a double occupancy room, shared with another person. Please note: By choosing this option, you elect to be placed in a room with another attendee. You do not get to choose who the other person is. Single Male Double Occupancy Weekend Package Sign up with a friend, and share a double occupancy room. Please note in an email to us who the other attendee is staying in the same room. Both parties MUST be approved members of the site and pay their individual ticket costs. This pass is good for a one-weekend pass to all events, as well as the shared room. Cabanas: Cabanas are available for day events from 11 am - 5 pm and Night events from 9 pm - 2 am. Includes seating for 6 and free mixers and water. Important Information - Email us if you want to be put on a payment plan for tickets. - Tickets will not be available at the door. 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New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - My answers to the questions - Yes, I would attend. Probably every couple of weeks, if not more often. I find the idea of charging more for single males to be pretty repulsive. There are single girls like me who want to go have fun and don't want to play with attached males. Charging more for single men limits my options and honestly, would keep me from going. That policy heavily favors married/attached men, as fewer single men will attend if the price is higher.

Know any Mormon swingers in SoCal? - Single girl in SoCal wants to know! - Where in SoCal. I work in the LA area 5 days a week. Mr. Sexperimentors