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am back - spliting up sucks - We would not play with either of the couple if they were divorced. We became swingers so we can play as a couple with another couple. We don't entertain single male or female for the reason we do not want one of us to be playing while the other watches. We would still be "vanilla" with both if they are still in the lifestyle but would treat them like all other singles in the lifestyle when it comes to playtime.
Swingers at work... - - About a year ago my wife was visiting one of the fast food stores she owns. It is one in the next town that has a full time General Manager and a manager so she spends minimal time there.
She was walking thru and over heard two employee talking. Clearly it was about a local swing club but no one but a member would know.
She discretely took one employee to the side and asked if they were speaking (female first name) and (male first name)'s party. She was.
Ended up that several of the employee's were attending the same party we were going to. Apparently we had all been going but just never on the same nights.
Needless to say it was an interesting evening the time where my wife and I along with three of her employees were all at the same party. A little space was given but by the third or forth time we were all at a party at the same time it worked out ok.
The no play rule is VERY firm and it is NEVER mentioned at work. Thank goodness the store was eventually sold to new owners so the concern is much less.
Too Young? - Are we just too young... - I personally don't think you're too young. However, you have to ask yourselves this. Are there couples here that you would consider too old? I have a son your age. I am 39 this year. Sexually speaking, I don't think any age above 18 is off-limits. However, not everyone is in the lifestyle just for sex alone. Many want friends etc. Age [u]usually[/u] dictates one's maturity level. Not always. Most older swingers will shy away or be leery of young swingers because, 1) Swinger parties have alcohol. 2) Maturity or lack thereof. 3) Insecurity about their aging faces/bodies compared to yours. Let's face it, everyone has something that they're turned on or off by. You just have to roll with it. I personally think you two deserve a fair shake. ;) Don't let others' choices get your down. Remember, everyone turning you down is in turn getting turned down by someone else. I don't care how hot they seem.
Don
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Kitty, they go best with a light honey BBQ sauce :)
Seriously, we live with only one ethical standard: Do not harm others unnecessarily. Simple and to the point.
As to the difference between morals and ethics; I have always believed that morals are those things society pushes on you, be it your church, the law, family, ect, while ethics are those things you take for yourself and make a part of your own beliefs and actions.
Do I view myself as moral? Not really. I have consciously chosen to ignore those things which society has attempted to push on me in favor of what I believe to be right and wrong. I obey laws I don't agree with not because I believe those laws to be moral, or myself to be moral, but because I do not wish the repercussions of breaking those laws. That and I live in serious red-neck country and our prostitutes are just downright scary .
How to identify yourself as a Swinger - - [quote=LOUISE_DON]Upside down pineapple ?? lol i dont get that at all.....[/quote]
Early on, when looking into swinging, I visited another forum. A couple posted a picture of themselves with the caption, "We did it!" Their shirts were off and they were facing away from the camera. A few people posted that they didn't get it. The OP explained that they got upside down pineapples tattooed on their backs so other swingers would know they were in the lifestyle. No one knew what they were talking about. It was sad cause at first they joked that it was a well known sign, but person after person chimed in that they had never heard of it. Some people who had been in the lifestyle over ten years said they'd never heard of it.
After a while they stopped trying to convince people and then stopped responding.
It was pretty sad.
swingers defined - -
swingers defined
a great clip on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5v-6_6qat4
Swingers unnerve families at hotel - - We were there too. There were unsupervised kids all over the place all day. They kept coming up to the 9th floor until they were told to stop by the cop. Then they came up the stairs. And this was in the day when there was nothing to see. Where were their parents???? BTW, I noticed the lady who was \"pulling down her skirt to show her diamond thong.\" I even complimented her on it. She never pulled it down as low as her ass crack. This kid cold easily see this on the girls he attends school with -- andseen it at school! That\'s what the girls all wear now. For the most part the men wore tuxes or suits and the women mostly wore formals. Of those women who elected to dress more sexy, I saw nothing that one could not see at a beach or pool in Florida. AND--These parents had a large area away from the bar (which we had to walk through to get to the ball room -- and the ballroom had NO windows) and away from the elevators (which were glass) that they could have taken their kids to. But then they would have had to be there to supervise their kids -- which by and large the parents were not in attendance to do. Mostly the parents who were aghast remained absent and allowed their children the run of the hotel unsupervised. Needless to say (kids being kids) they go where they\'re not supposed to. They tended to camp out at the tables (in the bar) right under the elevator(so they could get the best possible view) and watched the show. Then decided, after benefitting from the entertainment), that they were offended! I\'m sorry, but you can\'t have it both ways, folks! While the hotel should have managed their booking better (as they did have ample warning and knowledge of the demographics of these two groups), this is one of the most flagrant examples of parents not adequately supervising their children that i have ever seen. Thse kids worked all day to try to see something, and then, when they did, they watched for hours. It\'s sort of like ordering a meal, eating the whole thing, and then deciding it was bad and wanting your money back.:@
Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - I’ve been wearing the black ring for years all around the US and some foreign counties. Not a thing, no questions or looks.
real members? - - WOW DID THIS THREAD TURN FAST .
BACK TO THE FIRST POST ABOUT HER AFRAID SOMEONE IS GOING TO BREAK INTO HER HOUSE . YES IAM SURE IT CAN HAPPEN . BUT I DOUBT VERY MUCH THAT IS FOR THEMOST PART ANYONES PLANS . BUT LIKE SOMEONE ELSE SAID U TAKE THAT CHANCE EVERY TIME U LEAVE THE HOUSE . GET AN ALARM OR A BIG DOG OR LET THE PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA KNOW U ARE LEAVING AND TO PLEASE WATCH YOUR HOUSE.
I THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE WORRIED ABOUT MEETING THEM AT A CAMP PLACE FAR AWAY AND NOT KNOWING THEM .DONT U WATCH SCARY MOVIES ??????? I WOULD NEVER MEET A STRANGER IN THE WOODS .
ALOT OF PEOPLE GET TO NERVOUS ABOUT THE FIRST MEETS . SOME LIKE THE DINNER THING . BUT MOST DONT .
WE ALWAYS TELL EVERYBODY TO JUST COME TO THE CLUB AND HANG OUT . OR IF THEY HAVE KIDS THEN WE CAN MEET AND LET THE KIDS PLAY AND JUST HANG OUT AND GET TO KNOW THEM . MOST LIKE IT LIKE THAT . NO NEED FOR A SITTER . NO NEED TO DRESS UP AND HAVE TO PUT ON A SHOW FOR ANYONE . JUST TWO FAMILIES GOING OUT AND HANGING OUT AND DOING SOMETHING FUN .
AS FOR PEOPLE GIVING U THE WRONG PHONE NUMBER . THAT WOULD SHOW U THAT SOMETHING WASNT RIGHT .
AS FOR THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE AND THE SYSTEMS OR PROGRAMS THAT THEY TRY TO MAKE IT SAFER . I DON T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT .
FIRST OF ALL . TO GET AN ACCOUNT IS EASY .
TO TAKE PICS OR DO WEB CAM TO PROVE U ARE A REAL PERSON IS ONE THING . BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE THE SAFER THEN ANYBODY ELSE . WE LIVE IN A REALLY MESSED UP WORLD . AND JUST CAUSE WE SHARE THE OPEN LIFE STYLE TOG DOESNT MEAN WE CAN FORGET THAT ITS MADE UP OF REG PEOPLE .SO EVERYBODY SHOULD ALWAYS MEET IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND PLAY IT SAFE UNTILL THEY FEEL OK WITH THE NEW PERSON .AND STILL BE ON THE LOOK OUT AND BECAREFUL .
AS FOR GIVING THEM THEY ARE REAL SWINGERS SEAL . I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT ONE EITHER , THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THE LIFE STYLE . SO THAT WILL LEAVE THEM OUT AND MAKE THEM LOOK BAD AND MAKE THEM FEEL PRESSURED TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE . SO THEY DONT LOOK LIKE FAKES . AND JUST CAUSE SOMEONE IS A SWINGER AND HAS PLAYED BEFORE DOESNT MEAN THEY WILL WANT TO PLAY WITH THE PERSON WRITING THEM OR WANTING TO MEET THEM .
I THINK THE SEAL FROM A FRIEND WOULD BE OK . AND A GOOD IDEA . BUT IF PEOPLE ARE ONLY GOING TO WANT TO WRITE AND TALK WITH ONLY THOSE PEOPLE . THEN ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL MISS OUT ON THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE SITE AND THE AREA AND THE LIFE STYLE .
I DONT ASK FOR ANY KINDA OF SEAL ON ANY OF THE SITES WE ARE ON . AND I DONT LOOK FOR THEM WHEN IAM WRITING TO PEOPLE . THAT IS ALL POINTLESS TO ME .
SOMEONE THAT WAS A COUPLE WHEN THEY JOINED CAN NOW BE BROKEN UP . OR IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN A FRIEND WITH A FRIEND GETTING THE SEAL . I DONT LOOK AT THEM AS ANY SAFER THEN ANYONE ELSE . AND IF THEY HAD A SWINGERS SEAL OR NOT MEANS NOTHING TO ME . DOESNT MEAN THEYWILL WANT TO PUT OUT TO ME . OR ME TO THEM . AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO HURT ALOT OF HOOK UP S WITH NEW MEMEBERS AND NEW BIES TO THE LIFE STYLE .
WE RUN A SWINGERS SITE . WE HAVE A TON OF PICS WITH US AND WITH FRIENDS THAT WE CAN SHOW WE ARE REAL PEOPLE AND WE DO PLAY WITH OTHERS . WE HAVE WEB CAM TO SHOW WE ARE REAL . WE ARE ON A TON OF SITES WHERE THEY CAN ALSO SEE US .
IF THEY SEEM LIKE FUN PEOPLE WE WILL INVITE THEM TO THE CLUB TO COME AND HANG OUT WITH US AND EVERYBODY ELSE . JUST CAUSE I AM A SWINGER DOESNT MEAN I WANT TO PLAY WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PLAY WITH US . SO I WANT TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AND SEE IF WE CLICK . AND NO SEAL CAN TELL ME THAT . I HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND MEET PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS .
I AM PROUD OF THE SITES FOR TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER AND ALL OF THAT . BUT I THINK PEOPLE USE OR DEPEND ON THESE SEALS AND ALL OF THAT WAY TO MUCH .I THINK IT MAKES PEOPLE THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE OK TO MEET AND THEY FORGET TO USE THEIR OWN JUDGEMENT ON WHEN AND HOW TO MEET THESE STRANGERS .
SITE OWNERS ARE GIVING U A PLACE TO PUT UP A PROFILE AND TRY TO MEET PEOPLE WITH WANTS AND NEEDS ALIKE . HAVING SITES LIKE THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IN THE LIFE STYLE MAKING NEW FRIENDS . BUT THERE IS NO SEAL IN THE WORLD THAT CAN TELL U TO THROW CAUTION IN THE WIND AND FEEL 100% SAFE WITH ANYBODY . SOME MIGHT FIND THEM HELPFUL . BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT U NEED STILL NED TO BE VERY CAREFUL .
AND ABOUT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ADD AND REAL NAMES AND ALL OF THAT . ANYONE CAN GET THAT AT ANY TIME . BUT BE VERY CAREFUL ON WHO U CHOOSE TO TELL IT TO . NO ONE THAT DOESNT KNOW U NEEDS TO KNOW ANY OF THAT STUFF .
THEY CAN HAVE EVERY SEAL THAT IS EVER MADE UP BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY STILL ARENT CREEPY .
SO PLEASE BECAREFUL AT ALL TIMES . SEAL OR NO SEAL .
NAUGHTY DREAMS
FREAKY KITTY
sh*t swingers say - to preach to the choir - LMFAO, that is funny as hell! And really, how many times do you here many of those comments at parties?
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