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Interacial Sex - - agree [quote=SHAZAMER]I have played with guys and gals from every race, color, type of cultural upbringinging, etc. that can be found in Utah. The stereotypes are just silly and stupid. There are hot & not so hot men of every race. What I do find intriguing is that most guys of races other than white, keep themselves physically fit after marriage and take pride in their appearance. This seems to be much more rare in married white men. A shame! Also, seems like white swingers like to smoke. A lot. This is a turn off for me, so I tend to steer clear. xoxoxo Monika[/quote]

What is is with local couples? - Anyone else seem to have the problem with couples local to where you live NOT wanting to meet? - I think people who do not reply are simlarly afraid about pictures. THey are afraid that locals will recognize them. We are in a very small town where we have been asked upon returning from a social at 3 or 4 in the morning what was wrong.... Then it goes thru the 2 closest neighbors to the south living east and west of each other. Then it jumps west several houses and then North across the street and back east again. Within one day. 7 families now know that we got in at 4am and there is speculation as to why. The neighbor across the street, as I picked up my mail one afternoon, at the bottom of my driveway, starts telling me about a couple, that I do not know from the other side of town, about them fighting and how they poor mouth and then they were eating steak...... Do I care ... why should I, but in this town everyone knows everyone elses business.... But regardless of the size of the town people are afraid that someone will find out....<shishhhhhh> <don't let anyone here> that they are swingers and God will curse them.... You know what they say about small towns and Baptist.... They see everything, hear everything that happens and tell everyone about everything ...EXCEPT that they recognize no one in the liquor store.. or local whore house.

Swinger Study Survey - - One of our members is a doctor and is doing a study on swingers. He asked if we could post the survey for our members to participate in. Here is the link: [url=https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Al1HkUqHiyNOHJq5eyttaA_3d_3d]https://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=Al1HkUqHiyNOHJq5eyttaA_3d_3d[/url]

Age quesiton - Do swingers of the same age group swing together? - We tend to meet couples closer to our age. Since we are in our early 50's - when we hear from a young (20-30 years old) couple it's 99% fantasy on his part to be with an older woman which doesn't do much for the other two people involved.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - see we all get shit on here so don't feel like your the only one,, kristy

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - We're interested as well. KIK bk_1962

LAVA - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]So, our Pocatello, Lava travel food review. We really enjoyed Jakers for dinner. The best prime rib French dip sandwich we’ve ever found. Asked for medium rare and got it. Probably more than 10 ounces of tender prime rib on the sandwich. Great bread. Excellent horseradish sauce. Broccoli was perfect on the side. Excellent beer selection. Butterburr’s for breakfast was really small town dinner good and way too much food. Nothing else impressed, nor appalled us but those two meals were excellent. We had quite a few conversations with the locals. Relaxing trip. Didn’t run into any swingers other than seeing a couple of pineapple tattoos in the hot springs. Which might just be tattoos. Our Airbnb was great too. We will venture out that way from time to time.[/quote]Jakers is good!

Lusting After the EVER ELUSIVE Male-with-Hallpass - The Great Swingular Mystery - [quote=FRIENDLYGENTLEMAN][quote=PALS4FUN] Guilty as charged! In our case though, it's a bit due to the fact that we're somewhat unusual here. I (the Mrs) sorta drive things and hubby is a minor participant. I'm sorta on a permanent hall pass and he's kinda along for the ride! [/quote] I'm going to have to disagree with you there, Pals. Somebody earlier also made a reply that said something along the lines of "this site is male-driven". In my experience, at least, this site is the opposite of male-driven. Sure, there are plenty of single guys and "single" guys, but most of the active couples on the site are primarily female-driven as far as I can tell. Now, that doesn't stop males with hall passes from being a rarity. Just because it's female driven doesn't mean that the male half is allowed to play on his own. Or that they are looking for additional guys. Even here, it seems that it is more acceptable for a female to admit to being bisexual or bi-curious than it is for the male. Take a look at the profiles of your friends; I would be willing to bet decent money that well over half of them have the male listed as straight and the female listed as something other than straight.[/quote]Hey, I'm gonna disagree right back at ya, buster! :) I think that the site and associated swingers are driven by the DEMAND for FEMALES but I think that the swinging and active searching for swing partners is mostly completed by the male half. For example, I'll bet that 90% of the folks posting here regularly are the male half. And yes, there's a huge volume of Bi-Females here, but certainly THAT is not exclusively female driven either. How many guys will raise their hands to participate if they're asked to watch two women going at it then be able to jump in the middle of 'em? A male fantasy. If the women were just interested in meeting other women there'd be female hall-passes getting used all over the place with other women, but there isn't because the husband wants to be involved and the women will generally acquiesce -- again, ultimately driven by the male desire rather than the females. But then, hell, I like weeners too much to ever be gay so whadda I know?! [em]Emo_12[/em] Maybe it all really is driven by women looking for other women and the men just get dragged along screaming and kicking! [em]Emo_60[/em]

Mormons - - What a interesting topic, I have to put in my two cents. I am from Amesfoort, Holland. I moved to Utah when I was young and grew up in SLC in the winter, returning to Holland some summers. (A unique perspective) Now with my wife, I have not meet any LDS swingers. But our circle of friends is not LDS ether. But while I was single I meet many Mormon girls that a great interest in me. Some tried to convert me (HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... no) and some had no intention of converting me, although may have used it as an excuse to talk to me. There are many benifiets for staying in the church, and growing up non-lds can be a lonely affair in Utah. I think that many pretend to believe, because they need the support of the community, friends, and family. But many do want they want behind closed door. And I am sure the Internet is a great escape for them as well. I have been far and wide in this world, and most people are all the same. Yeah they may not be that open but everyone has to get to their own freedom in their own way and own time. So many of them just chat, and disappear when it comes down to meeting. But in my single days I had girls from the church meet me in private, and well. :) I used to like to think that is was because I was a hottie. but I think I have come to realize it was them who was hot, and needed release, and trusted me to be quiet about it. I am sure many think about swinging. But I doubt many would even talk to their spouse about that. The one issue I have with the Church is that they tend to control through fear, and I bet many guys and girls would like to bring up the topic. But fear their spouse will freak and they will be in front of the bishop. Most be a scary place to be, I am very lucky to have been raised in a very liberal, open, agnostic home. That upbringing seems to leave so many insecurity's, and doubts about ones self. anyway sorry to be long winded.

What's in Southern Utah? - - no that just sucks for you my wife has the problem of turning strait people into swingers LOL