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Small Town - Speak Out -
That\'s a shame. I have pictures posted, but they are in my private folder. This way I can (to a degree) manage who has access. My employement is in a field where if the wrong person ever found out I could lose my job. Richmond being a small city like it is; word of mouth and my lifestyle would never be a secret again. I\'m sure there are lots of other people that feel the same way. Heck just look at the lastest episode of Nip/Tuck where someone making a point informed a commanding officer of a bisexual within their ranks.
I use to have a private webpage meaning it was hidden so you could not find it by chance. I posted the link in a few lifestyle clubs and yes someone at my work did find out. Luckly they were just giving an FYI and warning me that a few other non-swingers knew that worked in my office. The person did not include their name so they also were afraid of fall out. Luckly nothing came of it, but I do consider myself lucky and have been more careful since.
It would be nice if none of us had anything to hide from, but sadly it\'s not the world we live in.
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - How about an item most of us have, swingers or not, but then wear it very differently!
No mater if a person is a swinger or not most of us have a wrist watch and when we wear it it's on the left wrist and face on the out side yes a lot of people don't bother to wear it anymore they just look at their phone, so not only wear it, but put it on the right wrist and face on the inside of the wrist, if someone calls you on it and either you don't fancy them or think they are vanilla just having a dig at you, then all you have to say is "Really, swingers wear their watch like this!" and say thanks as you are taking it off and moving it back to the other side! Latter you can move it back again.
Maybe not always wear it like this but when you are going to known or supposed Swinger hang out place, Bar's Etc would be a good way all "Wave a Flag" so to speak.
Just a thought
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
swingers defined - -
swingers defined
a great clip on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5v-6_6qat4
Have you ever.... - - I wonder how many of you may have inadvertently "seduced" vanillas that were actually swingers? It's a really fun game that Ms. Evil and I have played a couple of times over the years. And we know other swingers who've done the same thing. This one couple totally thought they were seducing a couple of goody two shoes little Mormons but when we got back to their room we pretty much fucked them silly. Not only that but we pushed them beyond what they had told us their "rules" were. We figured turn about was fair play. So are we BAD for punking vanilla hunting swingers? [em]Emo_94[/em]
ps- It was interesting how upset they got when we eventually confessed that we were swingers too and that they hadn't actually charmed the pants off us. LMAO!
Some neighbors just can't get along. - - OR do it the literal swingers way - just "love thy neighbor" ;)
Swinging with Vanillas - Any success stories? - [quote=EVILDOERS]I know this probably won't be a very popular point of view but I kind of have a problem with vanilla hunting. If you meet some vanillas and talk to them, hell tell them you are swingers or whatever, and they're interested and then you leave it there and they have time to go home and consider what you've told them and make a sober rational decision then great. Where the line becomes blurred to me is approaching vanillas in say a bar situation where there is plenty of alcohol or whatever and then sort of guiding (pushing?) them into a situation where they might not be thinking completely rationally. I think the majority of us probably approached swinging from the perspective of making a conscious decision to try it out or whatever before we were put in a situation where sexual play might happen. I just think it's only fair for others to have that same consideration "space" if you will before they jump into something they might not be ready to handle. Swinging is great. We have and awesome little hobby that is DEFINITELY not for everyone no matter how much we think it should be. The truth is very few people can actually handle the intense dynamics of swapping spouses. JMO[/quote]
Had the same uncomfortable thought when I read this post
LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - done...thank yoou
Another Swingers Show on TV - - [i]"The more main stream swinging becomes the more support swinging will have in the community at large. Once swingers have a beloved, adorable, polite and sexy out of the closet, celebrity, hosting a variety show on a major network it will probably become very cool to let all our friends and co-workers know we are swingers and it will become very politically correct for non swingers to defend and support us."[/i]
There will be an openly gay man signing laws in the oval office along with his polygamist vice pres. and transgendered Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff...all smoking a joint LONG before there is anything close to that kind of acceptance towards swingers. [em]Emo_67[/em]
Game for Swingers - Has anyone heard of a new game for lifestyle couples called Titillation? - Yes, we've bought the game ourselves. It's good for a first time with new swingers, good for groups too, but it's admittedly not the best. I'd say average.
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