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We just moved to sunny Florida! - Looking for new friends in the Tampa area! - Hello swingers! After a short hiatus, we are back, after moving to sunny Florida! We are living in the Tampa Bay area, and looking for new friends, to hang with, and hopefully, play with. We have been members here for quite sometime, and hope we can make new friends in our new home!
Please contact us if you would like to chat, meet, just say HI!
Ron & Chrissy
BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - [img]http://rlv.zcache.com/funny_cartoon_bee_stickers-p217849663432097580qjcl_400.jpg[/img]
Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - [quote=TATERTOT1982]Im very glad Im in the vegas swingers scene and not utah anymore.....[/quote]
Interesting statement, we've often wondered about our perception that Utah lifestylers are a little more "odd", for lack of a better word??? Due to the heightened possibility of "social engineering" (AKA LDS).
As for doing it alone w/doors closed and no one watching in a club - we can understand that "thrill" level. I think the most important thing is that they dont lead people on to thinking there's going to be more before doing that. THAT would be rude, self centered and dis-respectful. I think this is the fine line where people get a little "ruffled" at the many levels of "comfort" in this lifestyle - its tough to get all turned on and revved up then shut out (usually what guys are used to getting from women - lol)...
Club sceen question. - I need some advice on what is appropiate - [quote=TATERTOT1982]chances are if you are going to a swingers club thats what one would be there for. Sometimes I just dance and chill, but thats only when the people don't turn me on. Every time I go to the Red Rooster I just danced lol....[/quote]
Oh hun...you're forgetting we don't have "swingers clubs" here...just regular dance clubs lol Kisses...Naugh-Ty
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Classy not Trashy.........Perfect post. Thank you
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - You feel such a compulsion to return to the forum and bathe in hypocrisy, why?
You wrote:
"Why must you constantly mock people?"
Just the assholes.
-D-
Where are all the MEN - looking for men that arent afraid of furthering the aspect of sex - I am very sorry to offend all the homophobics out there especially you fun4u. I myself did not mean to generalize anyone or any group. (actually I think the guy that made the comment \"all true swingers are bi\" was flirting with me) Everyone and their experiences are different and that diversity is what makes it all the more entertaining. I do understand that pressure for anything is not fair nor acceptable. I am not forcing anyone to conform to my ideals I will defend mine however. As a person who has expanded upon experience and I am just looking for people who are equipped and capable of looking outside the box.
A bad experience in any way will leave a bad taste in ones memory. Just Like a person who does not take the time for foreplay...how boring. Or does not take their time to please the partner they are with. 35 seconds and dressed again DOES become more challenging with multiple people. I myself do not wish to be fit into such a limited confine of existance I understand that many a person has had a bad experiences anal or otherwise. This, you could mostly blame on the one giving it. And that some are not interested in trying in the first place. I mean why would you try something like even having sex in the first place. Its vile and disgusting in nature. But we do it for pleasure, which had better be why you are here. But some of you have taken such offense to a topic that I assure you, has to do with pleasure. I have had more negative responses than I would have ever imagined from a group of people that are known for enjoying things that \"some\" people would take great offense to or even consider immoral.
And to those of you who like to fall back on a prostate exam. The doc isnt wanting you to \"GET OFF\" in his examination room. He would have to charge more. And I think it would void your insurance coverage. Just like the nice cold speculum that women just LOVE to have their gynocologist shove in their crotch and stretch them open, but they still let us put stuff up there. So there IS a difference between an exam out of necessity and an act done for pleasure.
Thank you for all your comments
Lee
Polyamory - Please share your thoughts.... - Thanx SLCWANDERLUST
Sounds like theres more to it then what I have seen !!!! I know most look down on swingers
This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - Oh what a fun and exciting camp out this year! It was so nice meeting up with friends i haven't see for some time and fun and exciting to make meet new folks and make new friends. Thanks to all those who made this weekend a great time, can't wait til next year. :)
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