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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote]Who determines what morals are?[/quote] The golden rule is good but moral compasses are different therefore many feel as if they haven't been treated the way they would have liked to be by others. Murder is one of the only non-moral actions agreed upon by most societies... Sadly, it is usually determined by this quote from George Orwell... "Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"

Finding Connections - Do the majority of swingers wait to be approached? - For context, I'm the male of the couple and have been on a single male profile for most of my time on this site. I don't think I've ever actually met anyone for the first time from this website. I send out the occasional email, and I get approached every once in a while, but nothing ever happens. For me, this was a place to stay connected with the people that I met in person, at parties and events and things like that. It has been a much more effective tool for that than for meeting people. But like I said, I was a single male profile for a very long time. Now that we're on an account together, we might have more luck meeting other couples on here. We'll have to wait and see. As for being approached... it varies. If it's someone I'm not interested in, I do usually try to reply and let them know that it's not going to work for whatever reason. I don't do that as often for single males, because I've had some bad experiences with them harassing me afterwards, but for couples I personally try to reply. Not everybody does, and I imagine that for some people who get lots of requests it would become time-consuming to reply to everyone.

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=UTHOTCPLEXTREME]We are a professional, naughty, highly sexual couple that wants to find another couple(s), and a single male or female that we know are safe that we can play with worry-free. Or a trusted group of couples and singles. I know most people are or say they are, but we’d like to establish a level of comfort where fluids won’t hinder us. We like to go ALL in and if we can establish some regulars that we can trust, think of the no holds barred fun we could all have. We could turn our home into a weekend pleasure palace. A place where you could arrive at, become friends with everyone, and have your way with anyone at the house knowing they’re all safe, and all want to make you feel good. Food, drinks, hot people, hot sex, and LOADS of fun and memories. We’re working on a hot tub now. So expect that too. Let us know what you think and if you want to be considered. Single males, we’ll invite you as well as select you. It will be on a case by case and requested basis.[/quote] we agree totally, we get check 4 times a year and so far always good and have paper work to show, so yes we would love to be part of this group or the one u are getting together, Mike&Haley

Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - We tried different ages. The young ones just don't have a clue, too immature and scared. A lot of the older ones have erection difficulties. People do tend to pick those near their own age. The biggest factor is how picky the women are, including my own wife. As a couple we have been turned down a lot because my hair is grey and thinning causing me to look older. My wife doesn't like large over weight guys or guys with short cocks, or those who shave their heads. I don't think its age that is a factor so much as overall looks. If the attraction isn't there it doesn't matter what your age is. We like the 40 to 55 range.

Threaded messenger - We want threaded messenger - Risque Soiree is a great site if you like their events, but not everyone that goes to their events are swingers.... Fetlife seems very confusing to us when trying to search for people, and even though there are swingers on the site I wouldn't classify it as a swingers site. And you will find some "damaged" people on there, more so than you would find on a swingers website (my opinion is that there are a lot more single people on Fet that are still trying to figure themselves out. And some fetishes are driven by people that have been "damaged" by others)... Kasidie is better for finding other couples but I've never seen events posted for Utah... this site lacks a lot of things, but it's the only place that posts utah events, and understands the mormon culture... we avoided the Facebook groups for a long time due to discretion, but decided to just create another fb joint account that has no links to our real world.

hall passes - who all does it - Thanks Eros, as you agreed with me, our game has to improve. But just because we think we're enlightened and progressive because we're swingers, some of societies stereotypes still apply. Men are still men, and women are still women. In other words, pursuit is usually up to the male. Chauvinist as that may sound, it probably is more about genetics then anything else. How many species in the animal kingdom do you see, where the female aggressively looks for a male. It's almost always the reverse. So men, work your ass off in the gym, pay the 30 bucks for that that PDF manual on how to improve your game. (kidding of course about the last suggestion). What you may find is that it improves your own relationship with the wife or girlfriend. One thing I noticed, when I improve myself, it only enhances my own marriage and my other relationship. That's always a plus plus in my book!!!

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=ISSUE152]The couple times I've done it, I've had such a better time the more I knew the two guys, and j had that comfort level, that being said, I'm moving back to Utah and hopefully getting back into the swing, of things if anyone will have me?[/quote] We would love to have you

Safe Sex - How do you (or don't you) protect yourselves? - We now have the rule that we always use condoms. And we are still shopping around for the best ones that work for hubby. He would prefer not having to use them but not enough that he is going to stop. (Side Note: red condoms can have a BAD visual connotation for some guys) I admit that when we started out we didn\'t use them the first couple of times we played. We then discovered that the first couple we played with doesn\'t use them at all. They had some of the same arguments I\'ve seen posted here. The fact that STD\'s can be transmitted via oral sex, condoms don\'t feel right, etc. I can see those points. But then we found out that they don\'t get tested at all and he picks up random chicks while traveling (with wife\'s knowledge and permision) I think that is the point that makes me the most uncomfortable. Most of the swingers we have met so far are very aware of STD\'s and take some precautions such as getting tested, condoms, etc. But I have seen the statistics on STD\'s in single sexually active people and it\'s like 1 in 4 and most don\'t know they are infected. So he is playing russian roulette in my opinion. We didn\'t know all this before we played with them. So I guess the moral of the story is to talk with potential partners and ask questions!! For us newbies, it may be awkward and feel like you are being crass, nosy, or killing the spark, but the other couple should be willing to at least discuss it or maybe they aren\'t right for you!! Carrie V.

Swinging clubs/locations - - We live near Elixir and have been there a few times. We’ve never noticed any swingers, but our swinger radar skills are pretty weak. It’s a bit small, but would be a cool place to hang out.

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - Sorry, some people are just ill-mannered. The good news is there's a possibility that he's just new to it and hasn't learned how to act properly yet. I've seen the behavior before lol we all know how all you men have to be trained <<<<ducking>>>>