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STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm
HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER!
HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral.
Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you.
Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not!
HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results.
70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test
One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding.
http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm
Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person.
There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things.
SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner.
But if that is not what you wish then:
The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested.
This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.
Swinging in Utah - What makes A Pretty Great State a great place to swing? - So I could be totally wrong about why I think Utah is right up there (at least considering our relatively modest population) with many places that are much more...well let's just say cosmopolitan. Thought an informal little poll would be fun to get some feedback as to why others think the lifestyle scene is so active here in Zion.
1) It's all the warm sunny weather and sexy, sandy beaches.
2) Something in the water...other than fluoride.
3) It's rebellion from the influence from the LDS church.
4) A younger population equals more hormones and horniness.
5) The high alcohol beer makes us lose our inhibitions quicker.
6) Utah is no different than any other place as far as the number of swingers, etc..
7) It's so cold here we have to swing to stay warm.
8) We're wired for swinging because of our ancestors and their polygamy.
9) We grew up reading Prayboy and Repenthouse so we're just bundles of hormones waiting to burst!
10) The churches missionary program teaches us to share the gospel so we're all just trying to share the swinging gospel with others.
11) Because green jello is a natural aphrodisiac.
12) Because we're all curious as to what REALLY goes on behind those "Zion Curtains".
13) Because hottubs remind us of those nice warm baptismal fonts.
14) We're jealous of the polygamists who can have hard core swing parties without ever leaving home (and they are never sausage fests!).
15) It's a mutant virus spread by brine fly bites.
So, here's your chance to let everyone know why YOU think we're all a bunch of horny little carrot snappers. [em]Emo_12[/em]
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Of course, I'm Virgo the virgin.....stop laughing......okay, I am right on the cusp, so count me part Leo too...roar!
Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - [quote=MTNPLAY]I’ve been wearing the black ring for years all around the US and some foreign counties. Not a thing, no questions or looks.[/quote]
I here ya, I've also been wearing a solid black ring (or as seen now a black w/ silver stripe) for a while and also never had any questions or looks. I believe the black ring is more of a mainstream thing nowadays.
Hot discussion - Hook up section? - [quote=OSTAR21]Swinger is a Swinger is a Swinger, Single married, committed, non-committed. What the fuck does it matter to you. The lifestyle was here long before Lookingforfun369 (creative name) were on here. You are the newbies and should show a little respect for others, whether you are into them or not. [/quote]
Actually, single "swingers" are a relatively new concept. When my wife and I first started swinging (the late 80's!) there weren't ANY singles in the lifestyle. In fact, it was several years, at least, into the lifestyle before we saw an ad (that's how swingers connected back then, thru ads in cheap magazines sold in porn shops) from a single male. We vividly remember someone passing the ad around at a swing party and everyone marveling at it and wondering out loud how he could enter the wife-swapping scene (that's what many still called it back then) without a partner of some sort.
Yes, the definition of swinger has changed or perhaps evolved is a better word. But there would BE no lifestyle, no swinging, if it wasn't for married, or at least committed couples, opening up their relationship to other people. Swingular would just be an AFF or a Tinder if it wasn't for couples. You might want to consider not getting quite so butthurt and taking your own advice about "show(ing) a little respect". Trust me, the single males who actually ARE successful here are those who do exactly that. If you don't believe me just ask around.
What's in Southern Utah? - - no that just sucks for you my wife has the problem of turning strait people into swingers LOL
Pineapple or upside down pineapple - - What symbol comes to your mind first when you think of swingers? (Pineapple, upside down pineapple, or something else?)
I’ve googled it but I’d like to get it from my people 😉
Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - Lol. I think about 9months ago a couple asked me some questions about pineapples in a cart and if I knew what it meant.. I said nope and really did not.. now that I am here and woke it all makes so much sense.
I think the pineapple in the physical cart is interesting BUT having a pineapple in the cart conversation and showing a picture of pineapple in the cart may also be more interesting and effective.. and when it comes to pineapple in the cart.. lol. I am pretty sure I can construct a few open ended comments and reply seeking questions
network swingers - - So...who is Hosting a "swingtown" party?
Where on Earth are all the hot Virginia Swingers? - Show us what you have to offer VA!!! - I\'d have to agree with BEAUTYNBEAST. VA is very uptight-\"This town needs an enema!\" lol
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