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Same Sex Marriage - If you support - Well to make clear this is the MRS part of Stitchutah, I can't speak for him. As for me, I have to admit there are some of you whom posted that make some good points, and then there are some that make no sense to the forum at all. LOL! I really like some of your opinions and you make good points, such as Kinbaku, Thoughtgarden, and to some extent REally98. I have to say though that even though I have read every post to this topic I really don't know where I stand on this issue of same sex marriage. I have to be honest and say, I am torn. Some of you can respect that and others will bash it, but either way.....its just honesty. I really like Kinbaku's point about who are we as swingers to judge a non traditional marriage when none of us married couples that swing and have open marriages can be considered "traditional" to the rest of the world. Infact, there are a lot of those outside of swingworld that place high judgement on our choice of lifestyle just as they do same sex marriages. ONe of you commented on (I can't remember who, maybe it was TR) or rather, asked how those that didn't agree with same sex marriages would feel if they couldn't be married to their spouse legally (excuse me if I got that question wrong, I believe that is how it was put) and I have to say to that.....being on both sides of the fence here, that if I couldn't be married to Mr Stitch, whom I love and cherish and will love and cherish for my entire life (just as I am sure a gay couple feels for their life partner) marriage to him does not change my feelings for him. I would still be with him, I would still love him just the same, my life wouldn't change as far as how I live or feel. I would still have my children and so forth. The only things it would change (which, mind you, are huge and helpful in our marriage) is our legal rights such as tax benefits, insurance (we don't have anyhow, but at least we have the option), and other things that I am not fully aware of I even have rights to. I am sure I take those rights for granited as I am sure other married couples do as well. I don't argue that point, at all. However, isn't there, and tell me if I am wrong, ways around some of those legal issues some of you have brought up (medical rights, when decision can't be made by person) by putting in a living will whom you've appointed power of attorney too? If same sex couples can't legally be married by laws set forth by the government then they just need to take extra precautions to protect what they can. They need to be proactive by doing whatever they can to protect their union. Yes, there are some things they won't be able to do anything about unless the law is changed, but there are some thing they can do, and they should do. Like I said, I still don't know what side of the fence I fall on.....I don't entirely agree with same sex marriage, however, I don't entirely disagree with it either. It to me is a complicated issue, and its very possible that I complicate it myself. Where I agree with REALLY98 ( I believe is their names) is where they state....where do you draw the line? The government has a hand in almost everything we do, including marriage, and there isn't anything we can really do to change that. I tend to agree with the statement that somewhere down the road if we move that line and say...Okay, same sex marriage is legal, then some ppl may argue well, okay, same sex marriage is okay so now, me and my spouse want to be married to our girlfriend/boyfriend or hell the couple we swing with,...... now why can't we do that, marriage isn't defined anymore as just man and women, so why isn't my rights to legalize poly okay? Some may argue, that it would never happen, but I am posistive that if you ask older ppl in the community that if they thought they'd ever see same sex marriage being brought up I am sure they would say HELL NO, we thought we'd never see that day, and yet, here it is! I just thought that was a good point that Really98 made.....now, the whole marrying an animal thing, ugggh, I really hope that day never comes, but then again, you never know what some ppl might do. (GRIN). I, for one, never will judge a same sex couple....nor do I want to EVER seem as though I am judging them. I guess I really don't think there is anything wrong with same sex marriage, truthfully. The conclusion I have made for myself is....I will live my life with my family and do what I can to raise my children to be tolerate, loving, and non judgemental. We try everyday to raise them to make their own decisions based on how THEY feel about things, not what others think (and if you don't think that isn't a task, it certainly is!!!) I think this world is getting to be more and more complicated, and it will only get worse b4 it gets better (no, I am not a dooms day person) and all we can do as parents and as a family is protect whom we love the most that being, eachother, and our children. Thats all, I am sure, everyone wants to do here whether same sex or "traditional" (however you define that) so I suppose we are really have the same agenda in mind, right?

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - Best orgasms I've had are from DP

Swingers Club - Swingers Club - As I was driving through Clearfield City I noticed Bogey's finally closed. down. I then though it would make a great swingers club. I have never really been to an actually one so....

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - Lia is taking classes already!

wife with other men - ahhhrrrggghhh - If you are going to be swingers the first thing you need to do is set boundaries for each other, if you are worried she is going to something you may not agree with sit down first and talk about what is ok and what is not!!! You can both enjoy this life style and not have to worry about jealously for example only play together. Go to parties, have another couple over or go to there place, etc. If that would be easier for you then you both are there and both in the fun. To be in this lifestyle you MUST TRUST YOUR SPOUSE!! you can't look at this as cheating because you are both committed to each other you are just sharing you sexual lives with other to fulfill a need no one in this lifestyle is looking for a new life long love just friends and fun. Make sure you talk to each other and express why you are worried set limits you both are comfortable with!!!!! If you don't think you can over come being jealous this life style is not for you!!!

Amusing - Fakes.. ugh.. DESPISE THEM! - Ya, we've had this problem a number of times... but...what makes you So sure it's NOt the girl from the website you mentioned?...are celebrities not allowed to be swingers? just food for thought

What romantic plans do you have for your sweetheart for Valentin - - 1) Dinner, candlelight, Deadpool. 2) Bah humbug! Totally contrived "Hallmark" holiday I refuse to participate in. 3) HUGE gang bang with lots of TVP, DVDA,...and commemorative buttons and t-shirts. 4) I'll be lucky if I get anything more than my own hand and a cheesy porno. 5) Imma get on Tinder and get all romantic on someone's ass! Or alternatively totally stalk them. 6) Gonna watch Sleepless In Seattle over and over again while eating my way through the entire Ben & Jerry's product line. 7) A game of nekkid "Postoffice" with 40 or 50 of our closest friends. 8) See how many oiled up swingers we can fit in our hot tub then put all our car keys in a fish bowl. 9) We'll spend it alone romantically telling each other what we don't like about each other. 10) Not sure but it will definitely involve a couple of ferrets, handcuffs, a pint of sour cream, two solar sidewalk lights, a 12 volt marine battery, a box of Swiffer refills and a used pogo stick. Oh, and glitter...LOTS of glitter! 11) Insert lame "heart on" pun here. 12) My sweetie is dressing up like Honest Abe and I'm gonna be George Washington. We're gonna do some old school cockousing!

Younger couples - How hard is it for younger couples - i think in general there are less younger swingers because many of them havent reached a point where they are comfortable with the notion of "its just sex"

Craigslist Personals closed now what... - Craigslist Personals closed now what... - It's a PLOT! Big Swinging has lobbied our lawmakers to take down CL personals so they can charge whatever they want just so poor swingers can get laid. They can HAVE my swinging when they pry my cold dead cock...er...uh...nevermind. [em]Emo_9[/em]

swingin - thought this site was a swingers site -