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How do you spot a Swinger..?! - tell tell signs of the lifestyle - I really think that we should go with the wristband idea because even when I got to our clubs I cannot tell who is or isn't! Nothing is worse then having a gf yell at you to quit looking at her man because they aren't swingers...my come back was, I wasn't checking him out, I was looking at you! That shut her up! But seriously, the wristbands would be wonderful!
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - Love the idea
Physical Attributes vs. Personality - How important is being H/W proportional - The HWP cliche that we read in so many profiles is, in our opinion...totally lame.
It's overused...over-rated...and a total yawner.
Often...when we're contacted by couples whose profile states anything about HWP...we'll simply disregard them.
Honestly...can't anyone come up with something more original and authentic than the good ol' HWP bit?
Although Siren and myself consider many to be our friends (platonic)...with all types of swingers...it's always been what's inside that counts (play-wise).
Personality is and always will be the deal breaker/maker.
What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - My definition of "Swingers" is a couple in which both partners have agreed to allow the other to have an intimate relationship with another person. There are lots of situations that fit that description and lots of emotional states that occur as a result of swinging but that description works for me. So as a single male I don't think of myself as swinger but as someone who enjoys hanging out with swingers!
Friend collectors or swingers - - We don't think the OP is being offensive, just a little frustrated. Yes, there are plenty here with no intention of meeting or being truthful. Likely nothing more than a fantasy or she doesn't even know about a profile here. Getting on a friends list for many is just access to more amateur LS porn and maybe some hot chat.
We'll echo the sentiments of some others. Our friends list includes couples we have met or would like to meet. If it becomes apparent we're not meeting, we move on. Shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who reads our profile.
Meeting doesn't mean it extends beyond that, but how will they truly become friends, or better yet FWBs, if you never meet? Social media friends of any flavor aren't really friends in our book anyway, but maybe that's just how we choose to maintain relationships.
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - ^ all true, but if we see a black ring on a right hand AND a wedding ring on the left hand, we’re going to ask a few subtle questions to see if they are LS or not. It’s just for fun, chances are still low they are LS. As far as picking LS couples out...pre-LS we wouldn’t know what to look for but now it’s not that hard. Watch them at a club and you can often tell. It’s a fun game to play.
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Click "Settings" the look down in the bottom right corner for Block Single Males or Unblock Single Males It's pretty easy to remedy.
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Peta....are you a fan? - Their "State of the Union" message. - all peta and all the other aniamls activist are r people with money that like to let people and make it hard on the working man to make a living . i now u think that is wrong so what
I am strong animallover and i worked ona farm and did all of it and if it wasn't for farmerand cattlemen doing the job we would be straving andbitchin about where the food
but stop and think do u eat beef....do u eat pork..... do u eat out at a chinese place\
u r contributing to the issue so stop complaining about the animal. if u dio not likehow they r treated then go work for them and change it if not shut up and quite bitching about it if u can not helpi do not like how cats or dogs r treated but i never eat at a chinese or some foriegn place that serve that stuff
instead of make post to bitch about things do something about it instead of sit onyour butt and complain
it is called america we can do what we want with in the set lawsi do not like it but i live with it everyday so u all do not like the post i put but these is swingers site not a site to put stupid things on it is a site to enjoy each other not bitch about crap
Android swingers apps? - - I saw theres but it goes off your membership :( sadly its to pricey...
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