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Christain Swingers? - - From an earlier post on the same subject... I work in a church and know that most members here would frown upon the lifestyle. let me add that most of them are retired while I am in my late 20's. But a young minister that we had here, who left to head up another chruch, and I had a number of discussions about sex and whatnot. His opnion was that he didn't think God honestly cared what we did with our sex lives, that there were more important things to be concerned with. (as long as it doesn't negatively effect others) I'm not sure if it's a generation thing? My wife was rasied in a baptist church which seemed to be a "not talk about sex" kinda congregation, yet she and her family are very open in their discussions, some might say (me) a little too discriptive in their talks (like grandma and her new husband) but open none the less. My basic theology is that Jesus doesn't want you to live a life of repentance or guilt but rather that you enjoy all that life has to offer, and most importantly be decent and caring towards others, not necessarily in a sexual way but in a friendship helping way. The bottom line is that we all screw up from time to time, but don't dwell on it, learn from your mistakes, ask for forgivenness and move on to help others. With all that said I'll step down from my soapbox now

Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what. I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused.. One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on. You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden.. Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement. In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that... Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... . So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them. Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination.... We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced... I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..

Small Penises in the Lifestyle - - Being a guy who is 'blessed,' I can tell you a few things: 1.) I am [b]NOT[/b] user friendly...A little bit hard to handle for some. 2.) THere are some playgrounds I am not invited to, anal is [b]NEVER[/b] offered nor OK'd. 3.) Once people know about my size, I become a walking penis. 4.) Do NOT believe what people say about size, the ruler used by swingers is missing, on average, about 3-4 inches on them, so a 12 incher is really 8 or 9...

Swingers in a vanilla bar... - - Say "Hi, how are you two doing tonight" Seems to work for breaking the ice for us.

whatkind of pron is most people interested in? - Speak your mind... - To start a business I would say all amatuer and swingers parties.Personally if I am watching a porn(amatuer) and there was a 3some I want to know who the husband/wife is, it just add more to it. Other then that it's very hard today to compete with pro content they push all the boundries, i've even seen some movies where the woman wants to be slapped not many but.

Oprah show on Swingers - - Just saw a promo for Oprah's show on Swingers that will be aired on Thursday (June 29, 2006)for those that want to see what is going on in your neighborhood as it said, LOL

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Kitty, they go best with a light honey BBQ sauce :) Seriously, we live with only one ethical standard: Do not harm others unnecessarily. Simple and to the point. As to the difference between morals and ethics; I have always believed that morals are those things society pushes on you, be it your church, the law, family, ect, while ethics are those things you take for yourself and make a part of your own beliefs and actions. Do I view myself as moral? Not really. I have consciously chosen to ignore those things which society has attempted to push on me in favor of what I believe to be right and wrong. I obey laws I don't agree with not because I believe those laws to be moral, or myself to be moral, but because I do not wish the repercussions of breaking those laws. That and I live in serious red-neck country and our prostitutes are just downright scary .

Swinging and politics. - - Which political candidate do you think would be most swinger friendly? 1) Duh, Trump. Fucker's been married...a LOT, to like supermodels...and likely is banging a few on the side. He'd totally be down with swinging. 2) Bernie Sanders. I mean think about it...socialism? Sharing EVERYTHING in society...including each others spouses? Socialism is ALL about swinging! 3) Hilary. She was totally cool with Bill gettin' a little head in the Oval Office so she'd be fine with leaving all us nasty swingers to our own devices. 4) Mike Huckabee. Cuz...well, cuz...I dunno, maybe somethin' to do with the Bible and concubines or something. Or maybe something to do with Duggars? Fine, that one's a stretch. 5) Cruz or Rubio. Hot Latin lovers, need I say more? 6) This is by FAR the stupidest poll yet, Evil. Politics is serious business and I for one can't wait to exercise my right as a citizen to vote...and maybe have a post-election orgy at my house. 7) Rand Paul. Hey, he says he's a Libertarian or a librarian (librarians are HOT!) or something so he'd be down with a little wife swapping. 8) Carly Fiorina. Yeah she's one hot babe and I can tell she wants it BAD! 9) Lindsey Graham. Cuz, well cuz he's prolly at LEAST bi. 10) I dunno. Probably one of those total kooks running on like the Constitution or Green party tickets. Some of those guys look like they live in a cave or a box under the viaduct.

BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - You deal with it and simply move on. Why must so many make life so complicated with over-thinking?

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