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Rude comments can stop members from sharing. - - You know. I have heard it said that noone ever made a monument to a critic. If you want to post the pictures, please post them. For those who will never have a monument dedicated to them, may I say, grow up. Everyone sharing this site should be able to reasonably express themselves in words or in pictures as they so desire. Just as you don't want to be judged by others for being a swinger, neither do swingers wish to be judged by ignorant, self-absorbed other swinger critics. Above all, acceptance of others should be our credo here on this site.

Featured Couple - - We agree that the featured Members seem to be a VERY SMALL SELECT FEW who cycle in and out. But we do also believe it\'s nice to see who is sincere in this lifestyle. Because we believ if your willing to have your face posted upon a SWINGER SITE that pretty much says you still believe in the TRADITIONAL BELIEFS of the swingers, it\'s all about fun and if someone contacts you UNLESS they are totally freaks your gonna meet them and try and establish a link between you and then F^&K each others brains out. OK SORRY we don\'t even believe that........................

WTH over? - Private picture debacle. - I guess I'll play the devil's advocate for a second and share an opposing point of view. And this isn't meant to be offensive, just presenting another way to look at the initial question/complaint. First off, and I've mentioned this time after time in different posts, there is no one correct way to swing, to post a profile or to live a swinger life. If your opinion (and I don't mean you, as in the poster of the thread, just a generic term) is that people should show their faces and it irritates you if they don't, that's a fine opinion to have, but it's just that, an opinion. If you are in a position in your life that you don't mind if friends, family and co workers know you swing or see graphic pics of you, possibly from another source other than you sending them, or from a random search through a swinger website, that's great. It might be empowering and refreshing to some degree. However, some people don't feel comfortable with that or may actually suffer harm to their reputations, face loss of income or have other unwelcome things happen to them. It has happened to people and the threat, even if just perceived, feels very real to some. We live in a prejudicial society that places its values and norms on others and sometimes punishes those who don't comply with that version of normalcy and moral behavior. It seems an understandable worry to me and to others. " If you’re truly worried about “your job” or others seeing you than maybe you’re in the wrong place?" That doesn't make much sense to me. Though taking a break now, we have been successful "swingers" for many years and we were always careful and had a worry about certain people finding out. We know many, many others who feel the same, so to say we might be in the wrong place doesn't hold much water as anything other than your preference for who you meet or how you prefer a profile to look. As with all aspects of life, but let's direct this to swinging, there is no black and white, right or wrong. Personally we have always tried to bend our preferences, to give people the benefit of the doubt unless there was a glaring red flag or we were not in the least attracted because of what we read, profile pics (attraction) or something else that wasn't attractive or inviting to us. But no worries. There are a lot of different people with different needs and expectations. It is always fun for us to expand our prejudices, learn new things, try new things and step away from a list set in stone that we need to follow. That being said, we have our own preferences and opinions on what we are looking for, but that's all they are. We understand some people want to meet and fuck after a quick hello and exchanging a kiss. Some want more of a poly relationship. Some will never play in the same room while others demand it. There us a beautiful spectrum to life, to swinging to...everything. Just my opinion, of course. You may limit meeting some amazing people by creating strict rules about what you expect, especially related to profiles. Many new couples are super sensitive about even being on the site. But if that is what works well for a couple, great. That's how they do it. It would be wonderful to be in a place where we could all be honest and open with everyone we knew. But we don't and we can't, or perhaps it is just we choose not to because of the severe consequences we may face. I respect people's choices to progress at their own speed, to exchange face pics when they feel comfortable with it and to feel safe in the situation they are working in. For us, and the way we know many of our friends do it, the public pics are a little bit of an appetizer. The private pics have traditionally been more sexy and naughty. Then we have 20 or so face pics in the folder that we specifically have to give access to. Our reasoning is that some people want to add you as a friend so they can keep track of you, show interest, or yes, sometimes just see pics. For those pic hunters especially, we don't share face pics unless we are interested. It provides a level of comfort and security for us, even if it really isn't that safe and only gives us warm and fuzzies. It also is beneficial when nosy people are snooping on the site to see who they know, and even though it doesn't worry you, it worries some. Last up, we too have frustrations about certain profiles or they way people progress with their pics and such. But we certainly think they have the right to be swingers in whatever capacity they choose. If we don't like something, get too frustrated, we move on. But we do it knowing the other person or couple is swinging as they choose and we support that. I think the forums can be fun places to share ideas. It's a place to learn about others and see an opinion that you might not agree with or haven't thought about. Or, it's a place to ramble on about not much, so if you have read this far, good for you. :) xoxo Mr SRO

Jewellery, logos, etc to identify other swingers - We would like info on websites catering to discreet items to let others "know" we are in the lifestyle - Another site, SDC sends its members a pin with a butterfly and SDC on it. If there is another around we will sure know it. :-)

Brest implants - - I love my breasts! I got 450cc silicon under the muscle about 2 years ago and never regretted it. I didnt get a lift and I dont know how much scarring that has, but my scars from the implants aren't bad. The incisional scars are about 1 inch wide. I was very worried about scarring myself, but I think the small scars are worth the huge boost I got in my self esteem. I had nice breasts before, just a little small. But now they are perfect. My only wish is that I would have gone 50cc bigger, but anything is bigger than what I had before. I look so good in everything I wear now because I have cleavage and curves. My breasts look and feel real. I have had strangers (swingers at parties and people at topless beaches) that come up to me and say that they are too perfect to be real. I have had husbands come say that their wife wants implants but they dont want their wife to get them because they hate fake breasts, but seeing mine made them change their mind. Funny, cause that is how I talked my husband into getting on board (saw a topless girl with perfect breasts in south beach). I think the most important factors are 1)to make sure you do it for the right reasons, (mainly that YOU want it done and are not doing it for anyone else), and 2) to make sure you get a good dr. My dr actually did my mom's breasts 20 years ago and her's still look great and I knew he had a lot of experience, so that is why i went with him. I have seen some bad breast jobs though, so definately make sure you see the dr's work beforehand. Anyway, hope this helps.

Photographer/Videographer/Cinematographer - Want a pro shoot and a really low cost? - Hey swingers, I (Don) am a pro photographer. I also do video work as well. Would love to shoot some stills or vid for ya. I have a background in nudes, implied nudes, boudoir etc. I will provide some examples in my port for your review. I do not expect any "play time". It's strictly professional. You get all the photos! :) I will also post process (color/exposure correct). If you are interested, give me a call. Don 801-807-8057 P.S. I am shooting with the new Nikon D800, so you will be getting amazingly sharp, 36 Megapixel shots! Tools of the trade: Nikon D800 Canon 7D

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A&E New show about swingers... - neighbors with benefits.... - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=KIDSATPLAY]/snip/This is a lifestyle that must eat the crumbs that fall from the gay lesbian table to acquire any "me to" acceptance. /snip/[/quote]Huh? I heard they have an agenda, now they have furniture?[/quote] Not REAL furniture...it's from Ikea. [em]Emo_67[/em]

Why make it so HARD? - pic posting - Pics are a huge part of successfully meeting someone on ANY dating site. It has been proven that your chances are 80% greater. Everyone understands the need to be discrete for some people but there are things you can do to get around that. First, of all, you are on a swingers dating site and anyone else who is on here, is here for the same reason. The chance of someone stumbling onto this site and finding you is very, very slim. There are thousands of adult sites out there. Honestly, they would have to have some presumption of you being on here in the first place to even get close. With that said though, that chance can still worry some people but that is why we have private and custom photo albums. It allows you to pick and choose who you wish to view your photos. So unless you use your real names or a familiar username on your profile, there is no way anyone can relate your profile to your real person. As a second measure of protection, cut off the picture at your heads or blur out your faces. Then as you move along in your contact, send an attachment with just your faces. There are plenty of ways you can protect yourself yet still allow someone to see your photos. But if you still believe that someone is going to catch you with those slim chances, then maybe your best bet is to not even create profiles on a dating site. Because without pics, you probably won't meet many people.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - "I think, therefore I fuck!" I need some hatred, maybe I'll change our screen name to: "WhiteCockParty". Then, Kristy Lynn will hate me. ULUV, don't worry about it bro. They don't hate the "who" you are as much as the "what" you are. Not that it will add comfort. Most couples see single males as vultures looking to get laid at the expense of someone's husband. Some couples however, us included (rarely) invite a single male in the mix for some voyeuristic fantasy of watching your wife get the lights fucked out of her. I think the negative stigma though, is when you go to a party with your wife to meet a couple, and some rude, leechy guy, who can't see a signal if it hit him in the face, won't back off. Just because you are at a party as a swinger, doesn't mean you are walking in the door with a sign on your wife's vagina that says "Please, someone, anyone, stick your dick in here". We look for quality and fun. We are not out for purely sexual reasons. The fun, the connection, the right people, and the enigma of all the newness really create fabulous sex!! A single guy looking to cum on your wife's eyebrows, well, not always hot and romantic. Bottom line. Single guys have a place in the swing scene. But, if I could give you any advice. Post your profile..... and wait for an invite! If someone wants to fuck you, they will let you know. If they aren't contacting you, they aren't salivating for your cock. So, stand by, keep your dick ready, and wait for the green light. You won't be disappointed, and you will have more positive experiences.. We don't hate you, we just don't need you, until we're ready! Mr. X