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Swinger Bracelets - Swinger bracelets - [quote=FIRSTTIME1]Swinger bracelets Has anyone used these swinger bracelets or had any experience with them? They seem like a good idea for couples the travel! People in the lifestyle have a way to recognize other swingers. With colors signifying your comfort level in swing activity. A great way of starting conversation or letting other couples know you

Anyone been to a Vegas Perfect Touch party? - - A few months ago we went to Vegas. We stayed at Rumors Hotel which is across the street from the HARD ROCK CAFE....this is where the meet n greet that we saw on the main page. Though we wanted to go by the time we did all the other things we were to tired to go. However, We saw tons and tons of people being dropped off both Friday and Saturday night. They were all going to a party in the same club as the meet n greet. Very sexy people if you asked me....tons of them. Not sure if they were all swinger or club promotions that you will find people passing out on the strip. Either way it was happening group of people. We did go swimming at Rehab in The Hard Rock and that in itself told us we were in the right place.....Tons of sexy people.....So would be worth a fun night on the dance floor. So next time we will go for sure and not plan so much at that time so we can go to the club too....So I would check it out and actually find the host....that way she can point you in the right direction and I am sure there will be tons of swingers as well. Sin City indeed!!!!

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=SoScrewMe]We have an amazing group that get together often it is awesome, but unfortunately we are in Lehi.[/quote] We want to part of your group, more often than we have been..

geting in LOVE while swinging - - Someone mentioned Polyamory. Poly people, at least in most communities, feel that swinging and poly are not compatible.. Fact is, why not? If you are open and honest about your poly leanings and totally honest with your mate and any relationships you may have... then why not poly as well. I know that several people in here and on other sites, swingers feel threatened if you are overtly open abut your feelings. If one truely loves and trusts their partner/SO/wives; husbands/girlfriends; bopyfriends and whatever other relationships that I may have missed, they should not be threatened. If you fall in love with someone that you have sex with.... you have 2 choices..... Tell that person and their spouse and your spouce and see where it goes or simply walk away with the thoughts and get on with your life. The 3rd option is not an option.... If one is poly...thier primary relationship/s take precedence. It is my belief that poly and swinging are not only compatable but that it love happens when one least expects it and has to be handled. Even the vanilla schmuck sees or talks to others and sometimes form closer relationships but don't wish that to affect their perfect marriage. How is that handled? Sometimes it simply cools down or sometimes it ends in a short or long term relationship with or without sex. So as they used to say on the TV sitcom Carter Country....."Han.dl it Han..dl it" Remember the old sage who said "shit happens"

Where to go, what to do. - Non club activities - For our first activity we are going to try to diversify and do two activities on two different days. 1. An evening of something wicked: A delightful Eye-full It is a burlesque show at a theater. It is at Fort Douglas Post Theater 245 South Fort Douglas Boulevard (Bldg 636, Salt Lake City, UT It is from 6:00pm to 9:30pm and costs $10 per person at the door. This should still leave you available to get to the mansion party that same night if you were going to that. If you want to be easily identifiable to other swingers (this isn't an event is open to any one) please tie a purple ribbon around your wrist. If you don't want to be bothered with that we will have our ribbons on and I will be wearing an obvious feather in my hat until the performance starts and I will put it back on after it is over. For the second event I'm looking into brunch on Sunday so I will keep you posted on that.

A&E New show about swingers... - neighbors with benefits.... - Have it on our DVR but haven't watched it yet. Expecting a lot of manufactured "drama". I heard there would be a "Christian couple" as a counterpoint to these disgusting heathens. Also, in case anyone is wondering, Warren County Ohio is NOT a hotbed of swinging. Clicking thru a few stills from the promos they got one thing right. The red Solo cups they're drinking out of. [em]Emo_67[/em] Doubt it will make it unless a bunch of vanillas stumble on it and watch it for a vicarious thrill. Usually shows like these THINK they're being titillating when in fact they're just being judgmental and if that's how they edit it they'll attract a few crazy religious people who will watch it with disgust (while likely being secretly turned on) and the self satisfaction that at least THEY aren't going to hell. [em]Emo_84[/em]

Desire vs hedonism - - I know there have been similar topics, but I couldn't find them in the forums. So starting a new thread. To the people that have been to both hedo and desire, which would u prefer? I thought secrets and excellence were swinger resorts too, but now I can't find any evidence to support that. Anybody been to excellence or secrets and can tell me if its for swingers?

A Place In The Lifestyle - - We have a local swingers club in Tampa that is advertised as a swinger clubs and most seem to be in the swing lifestyle that is there and, we always have a good time while there... but here is what we see as a little problem. The bar part of the club is also open to non swingers(vanilla).And as we look around the room we notice more & more couples coming knowing it is a lifstyle club and loves the sexy atmosphere and loves to party but not to swap. We have talked to a few couples who told us they like the swinger club environment and how everyone is so open with their sexuality and love to play with each other, but they are not into swapping with other people. We know some will say couples likes this are not swingers and do not have a place in the swinger lifestyle. When you go to a swinger club, you expect people are there to meet and hook up with other swingers. Would you still call them swingers? And do thay have a place in the lifestyle? Would love to here your thoughts!!!!!

Welcome back Swingular! - Celebratory orgy. - [quote=NIKITA]I was crouching behind the counter at a Statbucks because if the end is coming I'm getting free coffee out of the deal. My barista was scared of the coming end, but I saved him from the on coming onslaught by my shotgun. After taking down many zombies, I pulled him towards me in a romantic kiss and said "Groovy baby." Wait, maybe I was watching Evil Dead while drinking Starbucks? Ummmm... what was the question? OH, can I come too?[/quote] Absolutely! The more the merrier! The earth ain't gonna repopulate itself ya know. Sadly, we're having trouble finding very many people who were actually Raptured up into heaven. This being Utah, we thought the majority would be sucked up in the first wave and we'd have our pick of swank houses, bitchin' rides and other luxurious swag. We thought we'd be lucky to find a handful of survivors but it's looking more and more like we're gonna need to rent out Rice Eccles Stadium to accommodate all the swingers who survived and wanna orgy away the apocalypse. But there's always room for a fellow coffee lover who's handy with a shotgun. [em]Emo_12[/em] [img]http://www.greatwhatsit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/bacch.jpg[/img]

What about the lifestyle didn't meet your expectations? - Preconceptions and disappointment. - I'm home bored, so stop here if you don't want to read a bunch of shite. lol. I think we both entered the lifestyle with some preconceived notions of what the people in the LS would be like, but that was mostly from our limited experience with being vanilla and having LS peeps try to hit on us. It just seemed creepy, desperate and gross at the time. We assumed most of the players would be super aggressive, ready to fuck anyone and have zero interest in relationships outside of sex. Our initial entry was simply to watch and be watched. We quickly learned that there are just as many wonderful people in the LS as out of it. Maybe more. There will always be the outliers, the few percentage on each end of the spectrum that are more extreme, but that happens in any population. Overall, it was a happy surprise. So that would be a negative expectation that wasn't met. As far as things we were hoping would happen or expectation that weren't met, we have very few. But we also went into the labyrinth without really expecting or assuming anything. I don't think we were naive enough to think that this segment of the population was somehow immune from the social characteristics that reveal themselves in any other social class or group. You will always have the "cool kids" the "shy people" the "jocks" the "geeks" the people who classify themselves as the "pity party" and blame the world for their problems. Those things will exist anywhere and should. Swingers are a diverse group of people with a few, maybe very few, common goals. Those goals I think are to meet others with social deviancy and those interested in expanding their sexual experiences or simply to meet new friends. Swinging, in itself, doesn't solidify your beliefs in anything else (politics, food preferences, choice of travel location, or even how or what you are looking for as swingers). I think that is where expectations can fail. If a person goes into a situation thinking, "I/we think "x" so everyone else must think "x" as well", they are bound to be disappointed. I've said this a lot of times, the lifestyle is not black and white. Life isn't black and white. There will be frustrations around every turn if you allow yourself to be duped into thinking your way of thinking is more than just your viewpoint, that it is universal to everyone. I see people complaining of flakes, people who meet once then run away, etc. That's how they roll. That's their truth. It's what they are comfortable with or wanting and who am I to judge. That being said, I don't have to associate with them and hopefully learn how to avoid that situation or become more efficient at finding people with similar interests. The lifestyle is work. Sometimes a lot of work. I think it's foolish to think that it should be easy to find 4 people who all jive. Think about how many people you have dated before settling on the right one for you. And to assume that somehow changes in the lifestyle and that after chatting on kik for a few weeks then meeting over drinks will somehow magically connect you. Ugh. Sometimes it happens. Sometimes not. But I wouldn't expect it. For others, the thought of any connection past the one-nighter is absurd. Why would you want to make friends with your fuck-buddies? It may be too risky and cause too many emotions. Point is, we are all different and that is what makes the journey so beautiful. And, just a note about flakes, since it is a recurrent theme. Yes, maybe there are more flakes in the lifestyle, but I'm guessing it's specifically related to the nature of the LS. Swinging for some can be very intimidating and frightening. Sometimes the chase is much more fun than the fucking. Not excusing them that do flake, it seems a problem for sure, but I think I understand, at least in part, why it happens so much. There is so much social pressure not to be in the lifestyle and most were brought up without it being the normal way to live. So society is telling us we are wrong, gross, deviant, etc. Add to that the fear of actually getting naked and fucking someone else and it can cause a lot of anxiety in some. When we first started we were petrified to even go the parties thinking it was going to be a fuck/rape fest. lol. Turned out we were wrong but it was a learning process. Lastly, if you are already treading carefully and the couple/person you are supposed to be meeting gives off any bad vibes, maybe flaking is best. It's hard not to hurt someone's feelings and honesty isn't always what happens. I know we have been honest with couples and it turned into a shit-show. Why don't you like us? If you only meet us and give us a chance we can prove we are wonderful. Other's like us, why don't you. It's hard to be honest at times about why there isn't a connection. May flaking be a way to spare feelings? I don't know. There are probably a plethora (Hefe, do you know what a plethora is?)of reasons people flake and some of those my be that they are just douches. But likely there are other people that aren't and are just trying to get out of a situation they are unfamiliar with. Avoid the douches but maybe give those others a second chance. Evil: always good topics you bring to the table. So you think because people like sex they should be good at it? I know a lot of people who love food but suck at cooking. haha. Maybe having too many options on the table can also make people lazy. I don't have to try hard if I know tomorrow is another partner. To some it's the quantity and not the quality. But I can see why the expectation would be there. All in all we really have no complaints. It's been a fascination journey. Some ups, some downs, but always and adventure. We will keep our expectations low, both of ourselves and those around us. Less disappointment that way. I'm going back to sitting in my underwear, drinking a beer and watching TV. Zero expectations. haha. :) Mr. SRO