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Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - We used to go to the occasional lifestyle takeover/trip and would invariably be issued a wristband upon arrival so that we could get into events at the hotel or resort. It usually took about half a day for word to leak out, first among hotel employees and then later the general public, that swingers were around the area and that they could be identified by their wristbands. I guarantee if the black ring thing took off that very soon there would be multiple internet stories as well as likely regular news outlets that "swingers" wear black rings on their right hands and there goes any anonymity. The VAST majority of swingers would then not dare wear the accessory for fear of being seen/identified in public as a swinger. MUCH easier to just attend private swinging events where you have a reasonable assurance that all or most in attendance are indeed swingers rather than spend a lot of time cruising the bars or whatever looking for people wearing black rings. [em]Emo_67[/em]

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - TR, By "sour" I meant "off subject" (these dam threads have a tendency to do that don't they?). Your are correct, I am guilty of being intolerant as well, I have ZERO tolerance for bullies or bullying, and have a tendency to speak my mind to these type of offenders I believe in treating people they way they treat me, even if its rude and ignorant. (My Mother said if you can't find something nice to say, not to say anything at all.....I have often struggled with this) "It is the enemy who can truly teach us to practice the virtues of compassion and tolerance."- Dalai Lama But to go back to the original subject: SWINGING SENIORS!!! "Like childhood, old age is irresponsible, reckless, and foolhardy. Children and old people have everything to gain and nothing much to lose. It's middle-age which is cursed by the desperate need to cling to some finger-hold halfway up the mountain, to conform, not to cause trouble, to behave well...."-Sir John Mortimer ~K~

Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=WILDONEZ2004][quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah. When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah. Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance. And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them. If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck. Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote] Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote] When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.[/quote] Well said!

Swinger Friendly Businesses - Business or services friendly to swingers - I run a mattress (adult recreation equipment) store and have and do give swinger discounts. (Insert joke here) I always find it funny when someone we met at a party or from our friend list shows up at the store.

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - The problem with the whole black ring thing is twofold. First, many people wear them now who aren't even close to being swingers. We see the silicone versions at the gym fairly often because you can lift with them without hurting your finger and I have at least half a dozen vanilla friends who wear black wedding bands (albeit on their left hands). Second, if black rings for swingers (or ANY other surefire way to ID other swingers) ever really caught on it would quickly become common knowledge and most swingers would prefer their little hobby stay discreet and not public knowledge to their friends, family, and coworkers. We were once at a lifestyle hotel takeover in San Diego and they issued wristbands to the guests. It took approximately two hours for the entire hotel staff to figure out what the wristbands meant (they were color-coded for sexual preference) and by the next morning you could walk to the adjacent mall and restaurants and people would look at you then immediately look down at your wrist and smile or even laugh and stare. People started trying to hide their wristbands and a few even removed them because they didn't enjoy the attention. And all this was before social media became a thing. How long do you think it would take nowadays for black rings, or whatever, to become common knowledge? Don't get me wrong. I would LOVE a foolproof way to know who else is a swinger as I walk down the street but swinging is still looked down upon by most other people in the world and most swingers still don't want their private sex lives exposed to the world.

Lifestyle vacations - Best place for a lifestyle vacation? - We just went on our first lifestyle vacation to hedonism 2 in Jamaica. We went with a group called young swingers week (OP just meets the criteria) and it was amazing. The resort itself is fantastic, the staff is friendly, the entertainers are very good, and there's always plenty to do even if you decide not to interact with others. And, of course, there's always the other guests. Contrary to the previous post, only half the resort requires nudity; the other half is clothing optional and the dining areas and front desk require some covering. If you're going in March I'd definitely suggest going swingers week if there's still spots available. They buy out the whole resort (minus a couple legacy rooms) and get to add an extra layer of events for the group. The hosts are amazing. Basically, there's a reason they get something like a 70 or 80% return rate year after year.

Adulter or Swinger? - - Loving to dance at clubs and bars, Cyn and I frequently go out on weekends and are often met by a variety of friends. Over the years, we have accumulated a number of single females that enjoy dancing with us. One of these lovely gals enjoyed meeting attractive single men and would often end up spending the night with them. Not too long ago, somehow it was brought to her attention that Cyn and I were..... "swingers". She was furious with us and expressed her dissapproval in very clear terms. After she was through venting her feelings about how disguisting it was that we could possibley be involved in committing adultry, I took a moment to present to her a few select questions. First, she saw no wrong in spending an evening with another man in sex and carnal expressions of emotion? She responded that they were consenting adults and both single.. therefore committing no wrong to anyone. I asked if she felt it was wrong not to be monogamous with just one of these men rather than continually finding new friends to experience. Again, she responded she felt no wrong with what she was doing. Why then I asked, did she find fault with what Cyn and I were doing, as consenting adults and with full knowledge of what each was doing? She responded with the comment that "swinging" was just wrong and that as husband and wife we needed to be faithful to each other. So, I asked why it wasnt wrong for her to swing but it was for us. She retorted she WAS NOT a swinger. To that, I shared the following with her... according to every dictionary I can find, a swinger is defined as a person who engages in promiscuous sex, an adulter is a married person who has voluntary sex with another person to whom they are not lawfully married to. The realization of the fact that she was practicing swinging came as a shock. It took a few days to fully sink in, but when it finally did, she accepted us with open arms for what we are, (I guess adulters), and our friendship resumed. One very important item here to consider, too often the request to bring another single individual into our bedroom is presented with the excuse that the partner doesnt like sex anymore. The solution to their problem is to cheat... or in their mind... go swinging. In our book, these people are not swingers by definition, but cheaters. Its wrong and unfair to try to use the cloak of swinging to justify being unfaithful. Lifestyles and swinging is not a remedy to solve trouble at home. Often when we decline the request to involve people in our sexual activities for the reason their spouse is not aware or doesnt approve, we hear the rebuttle.."why not? you are swingers arent you?". What ever name we give it, people need to remember... this lifestyle is all based on a few key components. Trust, respect, and the terms YES and NO. Period. Cant we keep the labels, the slander, and the lies out of what we can find to be a productive, social, and even in many cases educational activity between honest, consenting, respectable adults?

Pocatello - - In in Pocatello Idaho for a few weeks. Heist places would you recommend going to meet local swingers in the area?

ARE THEY REAL? - - I really don't understand why we have little luck with COUPLES. We are a REAL couple, who really swing, and really want to meet people. So thinking on it I have come up with a couple of reasons why. Maybe its because we are NOT interested in single fems? I have noticed that the majority of females on here are BI, and I am not, so I think that could have an impact on our success with having couples want to meet us. I think the MAJOR problem we have had is with Geography, we are down in in No-swingers land and to make the drive to SLC to meet someone who "doesn't play on the first date" or "wants to be friends first" is just not going to happen. Not sluts, but then again, yes we are! We are in this for the Sex I'm not gonna lie to ya! We don't want to make 2 trips to SLC on a maybe. I'm not going to tell you we have never met anyone on this site, just that we don't really EXPECT to anymore, haven't given up yet, but we are feeling like its kind of a lost cause sometimes. I think the forum is fun enough to keep up on, great pics and stories, I don't have any swinger friends so I love the interaction of it. I will probably always be here couple times a week, raising hell! ~K~

Thank You and Goodbye - - I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW THINGS . FIRST OF ALL I HAVE SPOKEN TO THIS GUY AND HE IS REALLY COOL AND SWEET AND IS ALSO LOOKING FOR FRIENDS AS WELL .AND I HAVE ALSO SPOKEN TO OTHER SINGLE MEN ON THIS SITE AND STUFF THAT I HAVE HEARD OTHERS SAYING TO THSE SINGLE GUYS IS VERY RUDE AND UNCALLED FOR . IT IS ONE THING TO SAY THAT U ARENT LOOKING TO PLAY WITH A SINGLE MAN AND LEAVE IT AT THAT . BUT SOME HAVE GOTTEN VERY RUDE AND IN DETAILS . AND TO ME IT IS JUST SOMEONE ACTING CHILDISH AND HURTING OTHERS FEELINGS . THERE IS A WAY TO SAY NO TAHNKS . AND THERE IS BEING RUDE AND PUSHY AND HATEFUL . AND THERE IS NO REASON FOR THAT IN THE LIFE STYLE .THE LIFE STYLE IS HERE FOR US ALLLLLLLLL TO SHARE . FIND THE ONES U CLICK WITH AND HAVE FUN . BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO BE RUDE TO EACH OTHER . EVERYBODY IS LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS . AND IAM THE ONE THAT SAID I HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH MARRIED MEN THEN SINGLE MEN . I LIKE LADIES . I PLAY WITH LADIES . IF AND WHEN I FIND A GUY I WANT TO PLAY WITH THEN SO BE IT ILL DO IT . BUT FOR NOW I DONT NEED IT OR WANT IT . AND I TELL EVERYBODY THAT UP FRONT . THE SINGLE GUYS (MOST OF THEM ) ARE VERY RESPECT FUL TO MY LIKES AND DISLIKES . AND NEVER TRY TO TALK ME INTO IT OR ANYTHING . I CHAT WITH ALOT OF SINGLE GUYS AND WE HANG OUT WITH THEM AT CLUBS AND PARTIES . AND FOR THE MOST PART THEY ARE VERY WELL BEHAVED AND JUST WANT TO HANG OUT WITH (NICE PEOPLE ) THAT WILL TREAT THEM LIKE A PERSON . AND AS FOR COUPLES . YES MOST ARE LOOKING FOR OTHER COUPLES OR FEMALES BUT NOT ALL ARE . AND IF U ARENT LOOKING FOR A SINGLE MAN THEN U CAN SAY IT NICELY . BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT WE WERE ALLLLLLLLLLL SINGLE ONE DAY . AND WE CAN ALLLLLLLL BECOME SINGLES ANY DAY . AND TO JUDGE SOMEONE OR TREAT THEM BADLY CAUSE THEY FALL IN THE SINGLE GROUP IS JUDGEING A BOOK BY ITS COVER . AND SOMEONE THAT IS SINGLE AT TONIGHTS PARTY MIGHT FIND MRS RIGHT AND BE THE HOTTEST COUPLE AT THE NEXT PARTY . AND I HOPE THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS TELL ALLLLLLLLLLLL THE COUPLES THAT THEY ARENT LOOKING FOR COUPLES . THAT THEY WANT TO GIVE A SINGLE GUY A TRY . WE HANG OUT WITH ANYONE THAT IS RESPECTFUL AND FUN . THE SINGLE MEN ARE FUN TO HANG OUT WITH . AND THE MARRIED MEN NEED TO REALIZE THAT IF IT WASNT FOR THEIR LADY AT THEIR SIDE THEY WOULD BE ON THAT SINGLE MAN BOAT AND WOULD BE SITTING IN THE CORNER WITH NO ONE TALKING TOTHEM . WE TRY TO MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL WELCOME TO THE LIFE STYLE . AND HELP EVERYBODY HAVE FUN . AND MEET NEW FRIENDS AND PLAYMATES . JUST CAUSE THE LIFES TYLE PEOPLE SHARE SEX AND IS LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS DOESNT MEAN IF THEY DONT FALL IN OUR WANT GROUP THAT WE HAVE TO BE RUDE TO THEM . AND IHOPE U ARE NEVER WALKING IN THEIR SHOES . CAUSE THE WALK IS ALONELY AND HARD WALK TO WALK ALONE . I DONT PLAY WITH NO MEN . AND FOR SOME REASON THE SINGLE MEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS . BUT I JUST CANT GET THE MARRIED MEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT ..... AND IF AND WHEN IAM READY FOR A (MAN) ILL PROB PLAY WITH A SINGLE MAN BECAUSE HE WAS SHOWING ME RESPECT ALL ALONG AND NOT JUST KISSING MY ASS TO GET SOME WHEN I ADDED ON MY PROFILE . HEY I THINK I WANT TO BE WITH A MAN . A MAN SHOWS RESPECT . MARRIED OR SINGLE . A DOG MISBEHAVES ALLLLLLL THE TIME . STRAYS AND TAKEN ONES . BUT I WOULD UNDERSTAND MORE IF THE HORNY SINGLE GUY WAS THE ONE BEING A DOG . IAM SORRY THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE SITE HAS MADE U FEEL LIKE U NEED TO LEAVE . BUT U DO WHAT U HAVE TO DO CAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT FUN . AND IAM SORRY FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO CALL THEMSELVES OPEN MINDED LIFE STYLE SWINGERS CANT ACT SO DAMN CLOSED MINDED MOST OF THE TIME . KEEP LOOKING CAUSE U WILL FIND THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR U .... OOOPPPSSS SORRY. IAM SURE THEY ALL SAY THAT RIGHT . WHEN WE WANT U WE WILL FIND U . WELL DAMN WHO IS TREATING WHO LIKE A SEX TOY AND BEING RUDE . I THINK IT IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND . COUPLES TREAT SINGLE MEN LIKE HOW THEY SAY SINGLE MEN ACT TOWRDS THEM . I JUST DONT GET IT . I WORK FOR A SWINGERS SITE AND U ARE MORE THEN WELCOME TO JOIN THE SITE AND TRY TO MEET SOME NEW FRIENDS . THEIR IS A PHOTO CONTEST GOING ON NOW SO PLEASSE ADD SOME OF THOSE HOT PICS OF YOURS ... I PROB WONT BE ABLE TO GET ANY WORK DONE... BUT IKNOW THE MEMEBER S WILL LIKE TO SEE U TO . HA HA SWINGERS OF AMERICA.COM WE WELCOME ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY THAT IS FRIENDLY AND FUN . NO RUDE OR PUSHY OR STUCK UP PEOPLE . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY I SENT IN A PIC OF WHAT I THINK ABOUTMEAN PEOPLE