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Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - this site started in fla it was rob and another (will leave nameless ) were partners in another site(will leave that name out too) and rob had idea's of a swingers site the other had idea's of being rich so they parted way rob moved to ut and is filling his dream as for nameless who know's a person that dreams of being rich that ever thought they made enough? any way this is way most are from FLA or UT been with rob since the begining and will always say I went with th better of the bunch keep up the great job and we will make one of your great parties (can't wait) spread more then just legs :)

At what point do you out yourselves to family and friends?? - - I really don't think it makes that big a difference. What ever you are comfortable with is what you should do. Me personally, I let the people I work with that we are swingers, after they had guessed. Didn't see any reason to lie to them. Hell I was hoping to get in the pants of a couple of them. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.

AZ Clubs - - [quote=JADEANDJAY]Not sure if it's still there, but when we used to live there we used to frequent Club Chameleon or Guys and Dolls.[/quote] Both have been gone for several years now. Chameleon was one of the best in the US. I have had some spectacular times there. The owners opened a diner on the east side of the valley after their club got closed down. Even though some of the old club regulars show up there, it never turned into a pick up joint. Somehow, Discretions & Encounters both survived in Phoenix. They are both much more low brow. I think that I know who put the screws to Chameleon, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm not going to name names. The person that I think it was, got thrown out for being too drunk & rowdy, then went on a rampage in revenge. He was a hot rod builder with a lot of attitude. The last words that I remember from him were "you mess with the bull, you get the horns". There are a few bars in town that host meet & greets for local Yahoo groups, but the crowds there tend to be a bit cliquish. There is a low key party in Havisu that is very good, but it's hard to find & hard to get an invite. Havisu in general is a good place to pick up party girls if you have a boat on the lake. Tucson has an upscale nudist resort that attracts a small amount of low key swingers. Tucson also has a honkey tonk Drink-em-up bar that is run by "god" & boasts a well equipped side room for people who are feeling frisky. Just ask "god" for the "full tour" & you will get an eyefull. West of Phoenix, there are some mud baths & hot springs that occasionally see some playful action. A little north of the city, near round valley, there are some hiking areas with swimming holes that sometimes attract frisky individuals. If you are looking for kink in Phoenix, try APEX. If you want better odds at a good swinging experience, hop a quick flight over to Vegas. It's not that far. California has even better options, but it's a bit more of a ride.

Dating other Couples - Have you done it? - Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. We know plenty of people who've done it, and done it successfully (up to a point), ourselves included. We don't know of many, if any, where it has lasted for more than a few years and didn't end somewhat badly. It CAN be quite heady and has the potential to take swinging to the next level. Unfortunately, it is also exponentially more likely to crank up the drama factor to eleven (out of ten). Quite often each couple has their own "agenda" (for lack of a better term) that is often at odds with the other couple's agenda. We've seen it frequently cause weird jealousies not only between primary partners but also between non-primary partners and in a few extreme notable cases it has ended marriages. In our case, we were relatively long-term swingers at that point who, although never really super active in the scene, felt like we'd checked off most of the things on our swinging bucket list and were somewhat curious if there was more out there to explore in swingerdom...or if we were sort of done with the scene. The couple we started "dating" wasn't really the kind of couple we usually were attracted to and maybe that was part of the allure. They also had a very interesting (to say the least) dynamic in their marriage that really was at odds with that in our relationship. Ultimately they kept pushing boundaries (started throwing the "L" word around and much more), pushed for more and more separate activities and were insidious in slowly and subtly causing rifts, both large and small, as well as a LOT of drama. We actually didn't even realize how much drama and subterfuge had occurred until we were finally out of the situation entirely. We actually miss them a little, at times, and often wonder if there might have been a way to talk things out and come to a better understanding of how to continue on in a healthier way but they've actually gone on to do exactly the same thing to a number of other couples we know (it's a small world in Utah swinging and word gets around) and it seems to be their pattern. Tldr; It can work. It's quite rare when it works long term. It has the potential for disaster. While it's appealing in many ways we don't really recommend it. YMMV

Question about Friend Requests? - - First -- Bracelets! We so need one! Second -- I believe if you have no face pics, you either think it would be embarrassing for you to have someone see you on here but BLUEEYESINUTAH put it best, why are you worried, they are swingers too, or you feel that your life may be to public for a picture, then if that is so you must have met some bad people who would use that to their advantage and for that I am sorry. The corner stone of the swinger lifestyle is discretion, if I ran into you in public I may say hi or just keep walking. I have made some great friends here and even had a few of them come to my non-lifestyle events. I have ran across people I know from work/school/family friends here and I just pass up their profile, really we are all adults and I know I won't even email you without a face pic, or if you email me I usually won't respond. To each their own, but put on your big girl panties, we are all adults. [quote=BLUEEYESINUTAH][quote=HFUN] Altho I find it ironic you call it being shallow for not giving those with face pics accessible a chance in the same breath that you boast that you are "high profile". Really? I mean, I can understand using discretion and not yelling "yo, great party! Your pussy rocked last night!" in the middle of the grocery store should we happen to run into you, but lets not overthink it. I don't care if you are a janitor, the govenor, or a celebrity...you still fuck and you still take your clothes off the same way I do. Trust me...nobody is gonna string you up or put you on trial for being a swinger. We may blush as we walk past you and smile warmly at the nice memory, but the neon swinger sign over your head is in only in your imagination. Personally I would love one. Hot pink preferably. Oh wait. That's why we have the bracelets. [/quote]

Swingers Dares - Text for cards in the game - How about the dare to where the person must allow not only ice on a nipple, but why not expand it to genitals, while your get the help of two others in the group to do the nipples - LOL That is 4-play (four people - LOL) where they can select the ones they want then to do this. So Pleasure and pain! You can do something with candle wax too - well not on the genitals :P

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - SS Camaro

Any Sci-Fi lovers here? - What\'s to describe? Either you like a good sci fi TV series or movie or you don\'t. - OK.... So we've mentioned Star Trek, Star Wars, StarGate, Aliens, Predator, AVP, X-MEN, Dr. Who (which I love), Heinlen, Arthur C. Clark, and a host of others... Sounds like we have a lot of Sci-Fi fans out there. So I'm sure that someone will remember a few British Sci-Fi TV shows that used puppets for the characters... Of course I'm referring to SUPERCAR, FIREBALL XL-5, CAPTAIN SCARLET and let's not forget THUNDERBIRDS...!!! Call me crazy, but I kinda' liked those shows... But then, I like anything that's SCI-FI...!!! Just in case they were not mentioned, let me just say a few that I can remember... Rocket Man, Colonel Bleep, Blake's 7, Earth vs. The Flying Saucers(classic), The Day the Earth Stood Still, The Blob (both versions), The Thing (both versions), Angry Red Planet, FORBIDDEN PLANET (Leslie Neilsen, Anne Francis & Robby the Robot), When Worlds Collide, The Day of the Triffids, Conquest of Space, Rocketship XM (Lloyd Bridges), Destination Moon, Flight to Mars, Invaders from Mars(classic), 20,000,000 Miles to Earth(George Pal), Them, Tarantula, and of course,War of the Worlds... Blade Runner, The Martian Chronicles, The Black Hole, Pitch Black, The Time Machine(both versions), THX-1138, Metropolis, Godzilla, Mothra, Rodan, Ghidra, Anguilis, and the tiny girls from Monster Island... Not to mention animated sci-fi like Final Fantasy and the like... The list goes on and on... If I missed any, please someone let me know... (p.s. Hey, Wait a Minute... I thought that this was a Swingers Site... LMFAO

Cuming out of the Swinger closet - - [quote=CNTRLCPL][quote=SJA]After some time in the lifestyle, we have recently started to break the news to some of our close friends that we are swingers. We have great friends and so far they have taken the information really well. However, we have other friends that would never want to hear it, and god forbid if we ever told our family about it. What are everyone else's thoughts about coming out of the "Swinger" closet?[/quote] Have you even considered the implications for others that may want to stay "in the closet"? You may be committing "Swinger Suicide" as it were... your openness might be great for you, but other may want to stay behind the curtain and would not want to be outed by association. [/quote] This is an excellent point we hadn't thought about. Luckily, we've only shared with a couple VERY close friends. Plus, we keep our vanilla friends and swinger friends quite separate to avoid this situation.

How do we find a female fire a threesome? - - [quote=8NowUntilThen8]Get the hell off of a swingers sure. Go to tinder or some shit like that looking for a single woman. Guess what bud? We are mostly couples in here except the irritating single males. Lmfao[/quote] Spoken by someone who has been on the site for less than 6 months. Try 15 years! Perhaps it is you that needs to get the hell off. Members of this site are tolerant of others; always have been. Now it is your turn to adopt to our ways or get the fuck out. Sorry, I don't normally call out BS when I see it but damn, that quotation was just rude and non-informed. Mav