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Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this.
It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more.
Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell.
It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.)
You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.)
Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.
'No pressure!' or 'Boundaries respected!' - What does the opposite look like? - "...isn't it a given that one won't assault another person or attempt to do so?"
One would hope. Unfortunately the lifestyle has become so adulterated (pun intended) by just about anyone who thinks it's a free, easy way to get NSA sex that you now have a virtual cornucopia of people who don't really "get it". What I guess I'm trying to say is that it seems like it's no longer wife swapping or swinging. It's now "the lifestyle" and apparently includes every manner of sexual libertine imaginable including those who view swingers (and yes I mean mostly females) as wanton sluts who are borderline nymphomaniacs that lack the capacity or will to say (or mean) "No.".
It would be very interesting to poll women who have been in the lifestyle for a considerable amount of time, say ten, fifteen or twenty years, and ask them if they're ever had to more or less fight a guy off or worse, or if they've ever entertained unwanted advances so as to not rock the boat or harsh the vibe at a swing party. Sadly I'd be willing to bet the number would be fairly high. [em]Emo_8[/em]
Tooele swingers party 2 - Doing our second party - If y’all need some chocolate I’ll join
Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - If you think that UT is too cold for golf, then you are welcome to join us for a hot round at our local courses.....
Another Swingers Show on TV - - It's nice to have an empty nest. We're planning on DVRing it.
Other activities? - Do you only meet swingers for sex? - With some of the folks we have met it was sex only and the relationships didn\'t last. The couples we have met with recently have also gotten with us for other activities. They have helped us put up Christmas lights, had dinner and done a lot of other things that don\'t revolve around sex. Of course we don\'t pass up on the sex either. :-)
Utah moms (Mormon) TikTok drama - - Curious if anyone here knew these couples? And if they knew they were swingers? Also, PSA…great you and your husband had issues don’t disclose or throw others into the limelight because your marriage failed! Definitely interesting!
https://www.popsugar.com/love/soft-swap-taylor-frankie-paul-tiktok-48840913/amp
Foreign members - Search option - Hi.
Although there are several members living outside the USA, there is still no search option for finding them. Today people travel a lot, we sure do, and during our vacations it would be fun to meet other swingers. Isn't it?
There are members in Central America, Canada, Holland, Poland, etc. So why not add an international search option?
We wish you all a very warm, erotic, healthy and fun 2004.
Bea and Alex
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swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Sincitybi..... Being fat and ugly, I can tell from experience is not a problem for some of us men. I seem to have no problem with the ladies...even the very sexy young. Yes my wife is a good looking woman but that hasn't really been a plus for me.... I try to treat a lady like a lady even if she's not what some would call a lady.. Women like the journey and I try to be their tour guide... Gentle, slow, sensual and erotic.... Ugly hasn't been a handycap nor the fat thing... and since the diabetes got out of hand..... I am fat... at least 60 lbs too fat... Fat and ugly can be offset by gentle, slow, erotic, stimulating and just being a good tour guide on a nice journey..... and my wife is certainly not a mongaloid. Even my girl friends are not the most beautiful people in the world but they are beautiful people..... although one of my girlfriends face looks like a very young Drew Barrymore... I just saw "FIRESTARTER" and realized the resemblence. Besides ugly is in the eye of the beholder, isn't it?
Not trying to start a controvercy just saying that fat and ugly doesn't have to be a hinderance in swinging..... and might I add age also...... The weekend of the 14th, not one not two but 3 very good looking, young women, I had never met before, were all over me. We were at the same table at a social/party/dance of one of the clubs to which we belong. Based on their reaction to my aftershave... I think that it may have had something to do withtheir reactions to me. The aftershave is something new, not one of the mass marketed big name things. I've gotten comments just on the streets and in stores.... So maybe I'm a good guide and maybe I know how to dress and what fragrence's to wear... I've also been asked to give mustache rides.... So old and ugly and fat.... so what... I'm like the energizer bunny... I just keep cumming and cumming and cumming...... :p and I have no plans of going and going and going, at least, for a while yet. Have fun and enjoy... life is too short....
Swingers Rock Club - Live music, Dancing, and Sexy Friends - Oh and YES, in the lifestyle and especially here Orlando in general it's pretty weak when it comes to a really good rock scene.... At least people like us are still holding the torch...
Rock On...
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