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Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.**
Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are.
Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING.
Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged.
Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing.
We have explored that.
On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!)
Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable.
To cheat is not.
>>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<<
This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order.
As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong.
Luvbugs!
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Stansbury Island - Who is out enjoying the rain naked? - [quote=Salacity22]😂[/quote]
Cracks me up. I didn’t realize there was a category that is gay nudists swingers. I think all three may have a separate category but hey we don’t judge everyone is welcome in our camp. I guess we are nudists and swingers 🤷♂️
Another Swingers Show on TV - - That'll be something to be DVR'd.
Karaoke lovers we want you!!!! - Hey its time to get this fun going. who else is a karaoke lover? - [quote=WDD]There are tons of places that host practically every night! [/quote]
That is true but to have a group of swingers would be nice to aNY BAR ATMOSPHERE
Mormon Swingers - - Define "huge underground". LOL It's a local urban legend. But there are a fair number of swingers in Utah who still identify as LDS and some even still actively attend church and stuff.
Is there a small group of couples - - [quote=Trimmed_Bush]sounds fun dodge1. how will we tell our swingers group from other people ? Name tag with a logo on it ?[/quote] I'm thinking if there is 3 or 4 couples interested in a Saturday night out in Wendover message us and We will give you a phone # so we all can set a date and a time to meet out there?
flintstones swingers ? yes or no - - Rumor has it Barney was hung like a Brontosaurus.
Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - If you think that UT is too cold for golf, then you are welcome to join us for a hot round at our local courses.....
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - [quote=JEFFSMITH1972]Can we talk about the kind of car we would drive if we won the lottery? [img]http://www.thesupercars.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/2009-bugatti-164-veyron-fbg-par-hermes-thumbnail.jpg[/img] Bugatti Veyron....cliche, but dude....just taking it across Europe...oooo.....
I'm in a '99 Accord, can't complain :) Not as capacious as the minivan, not as thrilling as the camaro, and not as powerful as a truck, but I did find out that the governor stops it at 137 mph ;) [/quote]
dude I didn't even look at this thread and you have the same taste as I do ! ~ ! ~ I about shit, when I saw that you posted that car as well. . . Most people that I talk to have no idea what I'm talking about when I bring up that BAD ASS SLED !
What would you do if you knew a member is fake? - Fake cpls on swing sites - I can see your dilemma, but are you sure they are fake and not just desperate, lifeless, pitiful fools? at the end of their pitiful ropes? Maybe just crude, rude, hillbilly rednecks or something?
We get hit up by the same single males quite often, seems as though they shoot in the dark hoping for some sort of outcome, and then quickly move on when they don't get a response. then a couple months or so later, back again with the same plan that didn't work the first time!
Doesn't mean they are fake, just desperate, and obviously unorganized!
The problem with outing people, AT ALL, is that you never know. Thing is you never know who will end up being your future Boss, co-worker, or client. (using as reference, you just never know) I myself am very turned off by smack talkers, had someone email me very recently talking smack to me (their idea of a warning) about someone I have known my entire life. Now how could they have known you ask? they couldn't have, but.......my advice to them......never smack talk, because you never know. (One persons "truth telling" is another's "Shit talking")
I'm sure that full swap couples would view us as fakes because we are soft swappers, and then get butt hurt. (Only full swappers are real swingers blah blah blah) But I promise you we are as real as the next dumb ass. And probably spent more time realizing our place in the lifestyle and why we are here.
Anyway sorry for the babbling. Just my 2 cents!
~K~
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