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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
How to find other swingers - - those are cool, we never knew:)
again this web site - profiles - First off your attitude would certainly deter us from wanting to meet you. As addressed in another post, a lot of people told you to post pictures and to get validated, it appears you have not done either, which is probably why you have not had any luck meeting anyone. Another thing to consider is that no swingers website guarantees you to hook up if you join, they give you the tools to meet others but in the end it is up to you. So before you place blame on swingular for your problem, you should take a look in the mirror first.
IKEA - ????? A question for those of you as kinky as we are. :) - [quote=OHBABY]I think we should all get together and design a couple of swingers theme rooms that they could display in their store! Then we could all go model the room for them and show people exactly how they are to be used! :)[/quote]
Nice!
Favorite bars in utah - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Sweet! But be careful!
[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/las-vegas-doc-hosted-drug-fueled-swingers-sex-parties-cops-article-1.2151475]Swinger Doctor Arrested for hosting drug fueled sex parties[/url][/quote]
If you're hosting a party and a couple "portray(s) ourselves that we didn
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - at the jazz game...
Church Swingers, are they out there? - - I believe an important thing to remember here is to live and let live.
I just apply the "Don't talk about Religion...it can REALLY cause a fight." rule when engaged in the Lifestyle. (But I guess that's what I'm doing...heheheh.) I agree with some of the comments here. I study a LOT of religions (a hobby). And this lifestyle pretty much flies against most of them (10 commandments, you name it.)
So...do what feels good and don't try and hurt anyone. We're all here because we want to be. If you don't want to do this...then don't!
Simple!
Have fun all.
K_T
Vegas: Swingers circle or couples oasis? - Which do I prefer - hotfire...which club?
Other Swinger sites in Utah - Anyone tell us of other sites? - [quote=SUENDAN]Here are the sites we use and our username there. Look us up and we'll show you around (couples only)
swinglifestyle.com
2NParadisse. They offer lifetime membership. One of the best sites ever for USA and Canada, eh?
aff.com
2NParadisse and DanNSuzy. If you sing up as a couple your membership will turn into a gold membership after about a month. Don't spend your money there on memberships, just wait until your profile turns into a gold profile and you'd have access to everything. We've been there since 1998 lol. Still a very good site, always evolving and we meet new people there often. Met our first couple there. Good globally also a few profiles from Mars.
sdc.com
FlorDCanela. I think this site is best for the East Coast. We meet people there occasionally. U have to pay.
kasidie.com
2NParadisse. not our cup of tea but sometimes good for party info. Some people in SoCal swear by it.
reddit.com the swingersr4r and other subreddits
FunMachina. We had been super lucky there for over a year meeting couples in their 20's lol. This is a free and unexploited gem.
In Spain we used onswingers.com
FlorDCanela. very good but limited to Spain and is in Spanish.
UK/Europe c4fonline.com - not so good for us when we were in Spain.
fling.com some people contacted us from there once.
Locanto.com kinda like what CL used to be. Not much going on there. Weirdos.
https://www.newbienudes.com/ has some potential. I just have not looked into it yet because we always have something going on when we decide to get out and play.
Regular dating apps like tinder, kindle.. you can open a profile of your lady seeking other ladies, just say that you are married and hubby wants to join too. And then... Bingo! You entered the Unicorn Realm!
Also non website nor non swinger party contacts:
Just take your lady to a strip joint and have her make friends with the girls. This works good in SoCal where girls are less professional. Could work in Vegas but good luck, they are real hustlers there.
Also, the wife and I were on a non-swingers date the just 2 of us, went to have a beer and play pool. This other couple was checking us out. We started chatting normally and pleasantly. The girl told me my wife was very cute. So, I told the girl, "my wife just said the same about you, how funny!" Ended up MFMF later at their place.
UPDATES: Lifestylelounge.com: use it if is free. otherwise not worth a penny. old profiles, abandoned page.
trueswingers.com review coming soon.
bisexualplayground.com met a couple there once. Not sure if still up.
alt.com seen it looks like whips and chains stuff.
Gone but not forgotten:
Craigslist Personals. Those were good to meet couples but tons of weirdos.
SwingDater.com met a long term couple there.
playersxchange.com a buddy's site. gone.
swingerads.com
We don't do much apps. [/quote]Wow how do you manage being on all those?
Simpsons: Is Marge going to be a Swinger? - - [quote=GINGERG][quote=SEXPERIMENTORS]In the shows season finally on Sunday, May 19th Marge joins a swingers on-line dating site. Seth MacFarlane, the shows creator, lends his voice to a married man that Marge meets on the site. This should be interesting.
Mr. Sexperimentors
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I don't think Seth MacFarlane makes that show, and i'm pretty sure the creaters mom who he named marge after just died[/quote]
You are correct. Marge Groening died recently in her 90s. The show's creator is Matt Groening of Portland, Oregon, who named the character after his mother. Mrs. Enlightened, in her college days, worked at an all night Portland diner and one of her regulars in the wee hours of the morning was a struggling young cartoonist who would doodle images on the napkins and get her thoughts. Yep, Matt Groening. She remembers panning his idea of a woman with big blue hair. Good thing he did not listen to her.
Groening no longer writes the episodes. There are about 16 writers, and occasionally they have a guest writer (quite often it is Joel Coen of Fargo and Big Lebowski fame). Always possible Seth MacFarlane is a guest writer.
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