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Christain Swingers? - - I think overall Religion has a poor track record when it comes to morallity. That is one of the reasons there are so many divisions in christianity. Often,when someone wants to justify their veiw on an issue they use religious interpitation to back it, some have even started new religions or branches of their previos religion to accomidate their position. Wars have been fought , people persecuted, tortured and put to death in the name of religion, and it still occurs on this very day. I remember a statement, said to be made by Jesus Christ: "He who has not sinned cast the first stone". I think the person about to be stoned was accused of adultry. One of his close followers and friends was a prostitute. He went to the temple to tell the holier than thou, they were missing the point, and if I recall he was said to have given his sermons in the streets, and roads to anyone who wanted to listen. Karl Marx (I do not believe in Communism) refered to religion as the "opium of the people". I think he may have been on to something. I had 12yrs of religious study in Catholic grade & high school and I think rather than brain washing me it opened my eyes up to the contradictions in religion. I think you have to step away from religion to be really objective, when looking at the morality of any issue. I feel a persons faith and beliefs are a personal and individual thing. Organized religion can often pollute your judgement, if you let it. If you can step away from it and look objectively at your choices in life, you may also find there is still room for you to step back in, and find a place for yourself in its boundries, also. I think like COTA has experienced, religion has let a lot of us down in one way or another. It is up to each of us to make up our own minds, when it comes to matters of faith and morality. Personally I don't think religion should cast stones.

Gangbangs/ Wife sharing - - We just did it at a swingers party. Strapped her down, and let the chain get as long as it wanted. The truly hard one to do is to get enough women together for a reverse gang bang. I know it's not me, but damn, what I wouldn't give to be covered in pussy juice, and tits, lips, and ass. Who's got the suggestions there.

Rants and Raves. - Tell us your rant and rave for the week.... - swingers need to vent too, we can't all breathe through our ears....

Fly-fishing Swingers - New Swingular Group - I like to Flyfish. Been doing it for many years.

Couples Copulating - How the hell do ya match up? - It is the same for probably 85% of us hun. 4 years in the lifestyle and we are still looking for the perfect match up for all 4. Yes, it does happen, but it is not easy to find the right couple and them feel the same way. WAY more times than not, someone is taking one for the team. We have a rule against that, but I am here to tell you that everyone sees something different in everyone.. Very many people get a bit upset when half of the party is very interested and the other half is not. Example: I find a woman at a party very interesting and sexy and she feels the same about me. Well, chances are that my wife or her hubby is not interested. Well, we have been down this road so many times that we just changed our rules to = "OK, have a good time". This sometimes still does not work as the other couple is still in the (COUPLES ONLY) mode... When it hits right and everyone has a great time it makes all the waiting worth it, but until someone lowers their standards you will be part of the 85%.. The other 15% are made up of: We play separately. Everything DOES gel. Hard core swingers and ok, take one for the team. The hardest part is when someone in the "said 4-sum" is not going there and sometimes people feel hurt. What everyone needs to remember is that we DO THIS FOR FUN and we are NOT all exactly what everyone else wants. DON'T TAKE IT PERSONAL...... Remember it's all about fun and excitement. If something doesn't feel right, DON'T DO IT!!!! Just keep on having fun with all the people that share the fun in the lifestyle and before you know it you'll be sitting around the table the next morning talking about how much fun you had the night before....

First time flop rule - it happens - [quote=BLUEEYESINUTAH]Sometimes women have 'issues' too. At least I do. It doesn't matter how much mentally I'm into it, I can't get wet to save my life. I feel so stupid when that happens. I realize that age (gasp!), hormones, nervousness, alcohol, etc have a lot to do with it but it still sucks purple twinkies. I feel a bit defective. Granted, that's why lube was invented so I guess at least I have a lifeline. But still, you don't want your partner to think you aren't into it.....:([/quote] Don't feel bad, LJ always carries lube due to her allergy medication. Serious hassle even for sex at home dammit! [quote=SPYDER_MYKE]i have thought about this. we are newbies and havent even met up with a couple yet (there arent many swingers in our area apparently) we get the 'what if' thoughts. 'what if we dont click?' or 'what if we do click, everyone gets along great and we chicken out?' i mean were not shy, maybe were just nervous cuz were 'virgins'?[/quote] First, move to FL, we have plenty of swingers here. Second, as long as people know you are knew then they should understand that you may back out at the last second, it happens. As for not clicking, hell getting 2 people to click is hard, 4 is extremely difficult. But oh so much fun when it does happen.

Family Swingular Members - OMFG and you do a search and see a close family member on the list..... - [quote=TOMNTAMMY]yes when i found out my son and his girl are swingers[/quote] oh my... I am not sure how I would do with that one a cousin is one thing but my kids would be a different playing field.

Swingers Club - Swingers Club - There's a Chinese Buffet/Swing Club? Why wasn't I told about this? I'd like a number 7. You get egg rolls with that, right? A number 12, oh and some crab wontons. (And some hot unicorns.) [em]Emo_84[/em] And I have a coupon from The Clipper...

Friends Lists - - Maybe all swingers should move to utah hell poligamy seems to be leagal....LOL and we rebel towards th establishment personally? who would think. what a party that would be!!!

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