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When You're Shopping the Scene... - - [quote=SECRETCOUPLE801]We wear black rings on our right hands.[/quote]
You also have face pics where the general public can see them so you're likely in the minority who don't really care all that much if friends or family find out that your hobby is fucking other people that you aren't married to. Good for you. I think a lot of us secretly wish we could be out and proud but the brutal truth is that here in good ole Utahr it could easily be professional and social suicide to be outed as swingers. [em]Emo_79[/em]
Chinese Swingers in Trouble - - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/world/asia/21china.html?hp
Age - New to the swingers community - is age a factor in how a couple is viewed? - "I know a guy that is 75 years old and still enjoys being with others. He claims that he can satisfy a lady even if the hubby is taking pictures. Although he needs a half an hour or so to get it up again.
Any comments?"
What are you getting at? "even if the hubby is taking pics?" So, what? We do that all the time. What is your point?
How much risk is too much? - - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]You're right. I'm just telling it the way I see it from what I know. I just wanted to voice the other side of this because I know women who feel this way and, although I understand how you feel, I see their side of it, too.
And the men on here who think that women truly want to be raped need to understand that they may think it's what they want, but what they really want is the unrealistic fantasy that's played out so often in the Romance Novels that are flying off the shelves. There's a reason for their high sales. But it's merely a Fantasy. These men might come across videos like that of Laci Green's and think that means all women want to be raped. They should know that, in reality, women don't want it played out. That's what the OP should know and consider. [/quote]
And a certain percentage of men may have just read that and only saw (or acknowledged), "...all women want to be raped." When we already have a very pervasive bias in our culture towards patriarchy and women being subservient to men, especially sexually, then discussions like this, IMHO, cause more harm than good. It doesn't take much looking on the internet to find sites and discussion boards where violence against women is not only overtly depicted through text and image but also actively discussed and even encouraged. Fantasize all you want but openly discussing how to fulfill rape fantasies in a swingers forum can only cause harm I think.
Can you be in love AND swing? If so, tell us how! - - I guess I will make a much stronger response. The lifecoach is full of shit! My wife and I are both on second marriage and the previous ones fell apart because of cheating. It wasn't the sex it was the lies, the betrayal of trust. My wife and I love each other like crazy. Swinging is a recreational activity we could do without if we no longer like it. Even during swinging I am only sharing my wife's body, her heart belongs only to me and vise versa.
We didn't get into swinging to FIX anything. We got into it because we wanted to add to what is already great for us. It was not a replacement for something missing. our premise is making friends and if we have sex fine and if not we have a friend to do things with.
Also if anything swinging made me love my wife even more. Her love and trust for me cannot be affected even by me having sex with others. We have a couple of times swung (if that is the word) separately and she came back to tell me about it and did so with my knowledge that is what she was doing. And of course vise versa. We still trust each other and love each other. Plus while swinging I can see other men, or women, pleasing her and get a view of what she looks like from a different point of view than I have when making love to her.
As others have said, as long as you communicate, don't take things too personal, and maintain trust swinging will be fun and not hurt your relationship.
When I say don't take it personal I mean like one poster said you should be able to say "she give good head" or she is talented. LOL we had been with a guy in a threesome and the guy did something that I have never done and made the wife Cum really fast and hard. When she had recovered she blurt out without thinking "You have GOT to learn how to do that!!!!!"
It kind caught us both off guard but we laugh about it now. She didn't say "I love him more" She said "DAMN he has a technigue that send me through the roof!"
I have learned from the guy how to do it and have used the technique several times. Even if I can't duplicate it so what? She still LOVES what I do to her too. More importantly we still LOVE each other totally.
OK OK I willget off the soapbox. It just ticks me off that people who are supposed to be great at teaching relationships most of the time have relationships that suck yet they can tell you how to do it. BULL. Save the money for the LifeCoach and take a trip with a plane full of swingers and go to HEdonism III. It would be money better spent.
LOL I will quit now.
Bogeys Nightclub in Clearfield - A Habits style club for northern swingers? - Yes, exactly!
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We love too. We are clean and drug free.
North Ogden Police - Need a fitness program - Dear EXPERIENCED_VIRGIN,
It has EVERYTHING to do with this website. Who are YOU to decide who DUSTY finds attractive? As far as I know it's not illegal to have sex with chubby cops as long as you identify yourself as a swinger first...and no donuts change hands. Now if you're in Hawaii it's (for the moment) still 100% legal for cops to have sex with hookers and/or single male swingers. They're considering a law to change that. The hooker part anyway. As to the OP's question. I would encourage your buddies in blue to maybe try CrossFit or Zumba depending on what kind of workout wear is flattering to their individual physiques. Also, you could encourage them to order from the "Favorites Under 400" menu. Most of the items are still deep fried (yeah, like donuts) but they're only 400 calories (if you leave off the cheese, the sauce, the buns, and eat like half of it). They also serve salads at McDonalds. Watch those high fat salad dressings though. Best to just pour a little of your Diet Coke on the lettuce. And DUSTY, you go ahead and love who you want, when you want. Out and proud! [em]Emo_80[/em]
Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - 28 and 31 here! :)
Whats happend to us since.... - - We've met some really kick ass people, to include the author of this post. My wife and I are from Oregon where the scene is a little more mainstream and a little less "Hush Hush". With all of the that "Hippy Love" left over from the 60's, the "On-Premise" clubs and being so full of liberals, Oregon is a swingers paradise. The Ironic thing is, because of the religious backgrounds of a lot of the Native-Born Utahans (being told no and don't from birth), they are some of the most sexually explosive people I have ever encountered. It is, at times, breathtaking! In fact my wife and I went from, soft swap voyeurs to the full swing naughty things, because of the energy here. It is as though we struck gold in the desert.
Don & Tami :D
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