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Oprah show on Swingers - - Found the schedule... i.e., June 30 and I found a video clip, trailers, but not the time.. East coast here.. Does anyone know what time it will air on the 30th? Thank you, in advance.. Ray

Sensitivities - a paradox? - I'm actually just as opinionated in life. The only thing that is different here is that I am surrounded by tons of thin-skinned and/or "conservative" swingers, where as in real life, if you will, I don't associate or surround myself with them. If I wish to participate in the forum, I am forced to accept everyone's contribution no matter how contradictory to the activities of the website or what some call "the lifestyle". In real life, I just walk away from the bullshit and not associate with it. I do not surround myself with people that promote sexual freedom and wish to stifle religious freedom or lack thereof or stand for idealogy or dogma that of an oppressor. As far as your study of internet ego, I would love to see this paper. Which doctor of psycology/sociology performed it?? What were the controls and in what environment? I would like to say that there are no "short comings" in my life, I just call bullshit when I see it and there is a ton of thin skinned whiners that I've learned to avoid for the sake of the community and my sanity, as I cannot stand having the same repetitive arguments with the same moronic crowd. In fact I would love to see that study of yours, shoot it to me in an email or post it here for all of us. I have no issues telling someone to fuck off in life either. In fact, I promote standing up for what you believe, regardless of what the mainstream thinks. You can ask anyone who knows me on a personal level that my passions are politics, atheism and libertinism. Hell, ask the Davis County School District how I deal with their religious zealotry, hypocrisy, intolerance of expression and the lack of seperation of church and state in Utah (in the Country for that matter). I do not hide who I am. It is many in this "lifestyle" that hide who they are for fear of persecution... Don't get me wrong though, I do agree with the theory that some people become someone who they are not, when on the internet. I know a ton of "swingers" that put on an act that they are these huge swingers that love to play couple on couple and when you get them two on two, the truth comes out and their only girl-on-girl because either the man is insecure or the woman is a closet lesbian. Either way, I agree with you. There are a lot of fakes. ;) -D- P.S. Now I will admit to puposefully bringing up topics to get shit stirred up. I mean look at this forum as of late. We're right back to talking about the same boring bullshit. NO THANKS!

Are there any real players on this site? - - [quote=Willplay]I guess I don't mean "players" so much as "people who like to play". I am always courteous, polite and I think friendly, but wondered why so many people join these sites if they're really not interested in interacting with others with similar interests. Perhaps it's just a bunch of men posting pics of their wives or girlfriends in the hope of others doing the same. Anyway for those of you who are real, a friendly response to a "hello" or "friend request" even if it is "no thank-you" is much appreciated. AT least we'd know there are real people out there! [/quote] There are plenty of people here who like to play. WHO, exactly, they like to play with is the overriding question. As some have pointed out, geography is somewhat against you here as well as the fact that you're a single male and, for some, don't bring as much to the table (i.e. a partner). But there are plenty of people who play with single males. It's just that with single males it's DEF a buyers market and those who play with them can be, and often are, very choosey. Simple supply and demand. And I know it's hard for some guys (not saying you're in this category) to not think that all swingers are DTF anyone, any time, anywhere. Market yourself wisely. Find your target audience (Read profiles METICULOUSLY to make sure you know someone is looking for someone like you.) and, most of all, be patient and you will eventually find people to play with.

Other Swinger sites in Utah - Anyone tell us of other sites? - Fetlife has a huge audience here, but it's not just swingers and it's not really for hookups. It happens there, but lots of people just want to connect with other kinky people.

Another perplexing experience - - In reply to wetfem there is nothing wrong with you as a cpl. We have had simular situations everything from "oh no your a yankee" to "your too old" of course they never said this to our face we just could tell from the way those nights went the bottom line is ,you cannot possibly be compatible with everyone you meet and chatting, talking on phone, and e-mails/messages gives you just a slight insight into who you are planning on meeting thats why for us for the most part at least folks local to us we do not spend alot of time chatting etc... we setup a face to face meeting very quickly and see where it leads most 1st meetings are strictly social and then we tell whomever we are meeting with lets make it" more private "next time that normally will lead to a positive response or a polite "we don't feel we are compatible". We have learned to laugh about the ones who choose not to bring it to a sexual level and consider it thier loss not ours . Being in the mid aged range we know that we are more uncompatible with the majority of the swingers who frequent sights like this my wife no where looks 47 People continue to guessed her age in her mid 20's (she drives those fair ages guessers crazy she has won every time lol) and when cpls/singles meet us face to face and we tell them our kids are 28 and 26 you can see the look on thier faces that is very obvious "They did not read our profile very well". With all that said, we approach all face to face meetings with no "sexpectations" if it happens great if it doesn't we say nice to meet you and then say "NEXT" Norm&Sharon

Utah? - - Well, that all depends on what interests you besides swingers! LOL ;) kisses

Original humans as swingers? - Provocative theories based on Bonobo sexual behavior - The author of the CNN article has co-written a book "[i]Sex at dawn: The Prehistoric Origins of Modern Sexuality[/i]" Have not read it yet, but will soon. It is interesting to see that the bonobos engage in sexual practices such as oral sex, anal sex, gay sex, and group sex, as a matter of course. Could this be the way early humans practiced their sexuality? What about pair bonding? If memory serves, from what has been observed in Emperor Penguins, they pair bond for as long as it takes to raise a chick to self-sufficiency. If the egg does not hatch, or the chick dies before then, the bond is dissolved and the two find new mates for the next season, just as when the chick is able to care for itself. Could this be the way early humans pair bonded? Would this explain the "seven year itch"? Or as Dr. Ryan says," An individual male's "parental investment," in other words, tends to be diffuse in societies like those in which we evolved, not directed toward one particular woman -- or harem of women -- and her children, as conventional views of our sexual evolution insist." Could it be that both pair bonding, and communal parenting were practiced? It seems that some societies did in fact practice some form of sexual conflict resolution, while others practiced conflict of arms. Was that an evolutional turning point? Just some questions to ponder.... Myself, I came to the conclusion that the concept of marriage as we have it originated with the agriculture , as at that time it became important to know that your possessions were going to be inherited by your offspring, independent of reading any scholarly works on the subject. So the idea that early humans lived communally and had sex communally doesn't seem too far fetched.

Nash - Meeting people - So Nashanddolly swingular is a great site but most of the active participants are in the Utah area. I would recommend SLS, SDC or Kasidie for connecting with other swingers in your area. We live in Houston but we cum to SLC often and we have an apartment there. We have met many swingers on Kasidie in our local area and beyond. Good luck and happy swinging

Pineapple Stickers - pineapple sticker = swingers? - Interesting. I have not heard of this, but this is definitely going to have me on the lookout. 😁

Christian Swingers - - I am an Atheist myself. However, I have seen lot's of people here that are Christians and also swingers. I personally think they can go hand-in-hand. It's not anyone's place to judge. This is why... There are plenty of people (all men) who "Covet thy neighbors wife" and both men and women commit adultry. Both of which are a "sins", according to the teachings within the bible. There are also intolerant fucks who judge others despite the teachings of Jesus etc. These hypocrites are just as guilty of sin, but consider themselves christians. Why can't a swinger be a christian??? So.... I say, that a christian is no more perfect than the next person. They're all aspiring to be godly, but all of them sin. According to bible (no matter how absurd it is), lust and sex, outside your marriage, is evil. It's among all manner-o-sin outlined in the book-o-don't (bible). So, since no one is perfect and all of us sin to some degree, why is this even an issue? I would say to all those hypocrites, "Unless you are perfect, you can jam your judgments up the posterior end of your alimentary canal." As a great man once said... "Fuck Those Fuckin' Fuckers!" -D-