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On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - I have been on the receiving end of City attempts at regulation of a club in another state. I believe the only way that one could truely avoid the heavy hand of the morality police is being organized as a church or truely a private club which whould require some form of selection process of club members. Even this would not keep you out of trouble, only grant you leverage in court. There is a case law study avaialable that can give you some overview of the current case law. http://www.moralityinmedia.org/nolc/caseStudies/swingersPack.pdf Renting a location per event is likely the best way to avoid problems. However I know how hard it is just to setup a dance on a per event basis, an on-premise event would be much more work. The effort may be worth it, especially if you have a lot of people to help. One way we made this work was a once a year event where we rented out a hotel during the off-season. The innkeeper was very comfortable with us being there and we were the only people that could get a room that week-end every year. We had the full use of the convention center and the swimming pool.

Curious Question - - Actually POOHBEAR... its a major secret society, (swingers), that have been practicing underground in this area, away from public opinion ever since the pioneers came west. Recently it was exposed by the 20/20 news show and now everyone wants to get in on the action. Seriously... most of the western area of Nev, Utah, Ariz. etc is desert and the cities grow where ever water is available. That means alot of empty space in between cities. As for the number of people in lifestyles... I think alot of us just got bored and had to find something better to do than go bowling at night. You are right however, there are alot of very wonderful people out here.. Best of luck to you on your move and relocation. Cyndi

Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - sign us up. TallnUtah Yummy Aim

Swinging and Children Don't Mix With Me, What about You? - Unforgettable experience - I have to say, having children and trying to meet with couples can be very hard on your lifestlye. Family always comes first in my book, but it doesn't seem like every parent thinks that, which is why I'm letting you know why they should start thinking about it. We thought that maybe if we could meet with a couple that also have a child or has children, that we could have a better, lasting relationship and have other things to enjoy with these couples, besides just swinging. Well, one couple didn't work out with us and I don't know how to go about letting them know they were wrong in what happened. I'm the only one that even seemed to get upset about the situation and I wanted to get others opionion to make sure I don't owe an opology to them. Here's what happened..... Me and my husband met with a couple at a swingers club, which was off-premise, and we talked some and explained we had children and that we wanted to meet with couples, but it was hard with younsters and it was also hard to find a reliable and trusting babysitter to be able to enjoy the night out. They the told us they had a child and that if we wanted to talk more and get to know each other better, that we could come to their home for a dinner, with our kids. Now...we explained up front that we don't play seperate and we definitely did not play if we had our children with us. They said that it wouldn't be a problem, no hank-panky with kids around, because they too had a small one. This sounded really great to us, because we thought we found a good couple to be friends with and have some extra benefits too, if we wanted. Well, things started out okay. We were greeted at the door by the family, and our kids was introduced to their child, and was showed some computer games and such to play. That gave us time to talk a little to the couple and was shown the outside of their home and such before dinner. After dinner is when everything went WRONG. First, I had to go to the bathroom. Well, while I was gone to the bathroom, the Mrs. decide to give my hubby a tour of the rest of the house, mainly the extra bedroom....and when I asked the hubby where my hubby was, he said.."Don't worry about them, they'll be okay for awhile"...well, that really ticked me off, especially knowing our children were now mixed up in this...and our oldest asking where his daddy went with that lady.....that was about the last straw for me....but I was in these peoples home, not mine, and I respect others homes, but in this situation, I was ready to leave, and without my other half....because he too knew our rules of playing. Well, when the Mrs. and mine came back up, my other half knew I was mad, but for some strange reason, he felt like he had to still play around with her, and in the same room all the children were in!!!! Not to mention, she couldn't keep her hands off him, which was not making my situation of trying to calm down any easier. When I finally got my hubby alone, I "very persistantly" told him me and the kids were leaving...NOW..and if he was smart he had better be out the front door before me or I would leave him there, and I truely meant it. I was so angry and hurt by all of the happenings around me, I thought that if this is what it's like to try and swing...FORGET IT...my nerves or marriage weren't going to stay together if this is what I had to look forward to everytime. My hubby didn't get out the door before me..he was too busy kissing the Mrs good-bye....and I mean french-kissing..... but, thank Goodness I got the kids out the door before me....and that didn't help out any on his part, believe me. We stopped swinging for many years after that because of trust with one another and with other couples saying one thing and then doing another. This particular couple apparently feels that nothing was wrong with what happened, and actually contacted us again after many, many, many years after this incident happened. I'm not one either to "shun" anyone, but this expereince really bothered me then, and still does, and after them contacting us again, through an e-mail, not by phone, it makes me wonder about my feelings on the matter. Am I wrong to feel this way, even after all these years? I do trust my husband NOW, after the bad expereinces, because there was one more after that, but it took alot of talking, yelling, and regaining a trust that is hard to achieve after something that drastic that involved your kids in the process. I e-mailed them back, but I know it was short and blunt, nothing mean, I don't do things like that, but what if they try again to contact us...what do I say? Any help/advice/opinions is appreciated. Hope no one ever has to expereince something like this...most marriages would never have lasted unless you really had a great understanding with your mate, and we put ours to the test and passed.......barely.

Where do you go have Adult only sexual fun in Vegas... - Sexual fun - We really think it depends on what you are looking for...If you are a SOCIAL BUTTERFLY, and not afraid to approach people you will do well at the RED ROOSTER, it is always a full house on FRIDAY and SATURDAY nights. COUPLES OASIS was more laid back, but too cliquish for us (WE ARE CONSIDERED AS KEN AND BARBIE'S MOM & POP). Now if you just want to get down and dirty, and have some BUTT-NAKED fun, we highly recommend SWINGERS CIRCLE on THURSDAY nights, all I'm going to say is, clothes are not an option, within the first 30 minutes everyone is naked. It is a little more expensive, but it is well worth it. Hope this helps. Deedee & Larry

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - [quote=BRICK]well guess my female golf partner and I will just go out and have some naughty golf bets today[/quote] If you weren't so far away, we'd be all for going out. Sorry!

Las Vegas Swingers club - - Just go. You have to fill out some paperwork for "membership" and get a tour - but it makes for a great introduction. If you're going on a Friday/Saturday you might want to get there by 9 or a little before.

West Jordan Utah???? - - we thought everyone in park city were swingers so we bought here.....guess we should have bought in west jordan :D

Here's something Ive been curious about - - I am a SF. I enjoy playing with couples and with single males. I hate the bull shit that single guys on other sites put us single ladies through! Most of the SM's I have met on here have been really respectful and understanding. There have been couples I have met that are not so respectful. To me, swinging is about meeting with like minded people to enjoy yourself. Regardless of if play is involved or not. I enjoy the openness of the lifestyle, the opportunity to meet people who feel the same way I do and the ability to have the option of play if all involved feel so inclined. Whether male or female, swinging is a lifestyle. If they are living that lifestyle, they are swingers in my book.

To protect or not to protect - that is the question. - - MY only thought is why would you have unprotected sex with couples? Especially couples that are swingers and are having sex with multiple partners!! I mean the old saying goes when you sleep with someone you sleep with everyone they have slept with! I guess to each is own but I don't know how you would want to put yourself at that kind of risk???