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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Very thought provoking. Thanks. :-) I think it's also safe to say that for most, like me, the forum is an entertainment tool and nothing more. I do not walk away from it carrying any feelings of contempt... Ever. -D-

Public display/playing - Playing in public places - [quote=JIMBOUT]I really enjoy playing in public places. A lot of people talk about it, but do they actually do it?[/quote] By "playing" I assume you mean fucking? Have ya tried Temple Square? DEF a bucket list item for swingers who like to live dangerously! [em]Emo_49[/em]

Why swingers are happier. - - Damn - I have seen some great screaming smiles - and I know it makes me happier :-D

The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.

Where do you go have Adult only sexual fun in Vegas... - Sexual fun - [quote=IHORUS69]Jen and I have been to "on-premises" swingers clubs all over the country. Number one hands down is New Horizons in Seattle. (No single men) . Second place is Freedom Acres, San Bernardino (No single men) and close third is Collette's in New Orleans (No single men). Don't waste your time on the East Coast or Chicago. Sad. In Vegas, each club has negatives, but the best in Vegas BY FAR is the Green Door hands down. We have been to all three on-premises clubs (not counting power exchange) and we will not ever go back to neither the rooster nor Oasis. The Green Door is big. VERY big compared to the other two. Its up-to date, and clean. Clean is very important when it comes to potentially how funky sex can deteriorate to--especially as funky as most of the people are at the Rooster. Now, that doesn't mean we haven't met other HOT couples who lost their way and went to the rooster, but I think we just got lucky. There are some scary effen and out-of-shape folks there. We even saw one loser getting tazed there. The Deco of the place is 70's at best and the high-light of the evening is some guy who croons Neil Diamond songs. Good god. up stairs play room is very small and inadequate. Oasis, bring your own date if you want to play. Very cliquey, very much like Chicago. Now the rooster and the Door both have single guys. But the Single guys at the rooster walk around with dick-in-hand and swarm like sharks. At the door there are a lot more areas where they cannot go but can watch from a distance, and they seem a LOT less tacky. Hope that helps. We love SLC swingers. Its a shame there is no on-premises club there yet.[/quote] As an out of towner as well, agree with you about most. Been to the rooster once, never again, repulsive, rooting from the cleanliness of the entire place. Been to the Green Door, the cleanliness you would expect. Common area and viewing area littered with single men, seems to be promoting their store. Not traveled like you, but have Trapeze in Miami area to compare these with, also in Atlanta which I find much more desirable than vegas clubs. The Artisan is a fun place and most times you can get something started if that is what you are looking for. Also find the VIP parties at Paris a great place to find like minded people, while not designated as a swinger club, easy to spot the couples looking for a lost night in vegas if that is what you are looking for.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - perhaps TEQUILAROSE was confused by my statement, I stated that alot of people have fetish's but I do not know alot of white couples that are interested in black men, not every woman like a cock over 8" either, there are some but we have not met very many and it seems to be a very select group and type of swinger. I am not speaking for all swingers, I am stating what I have seen in the past and my experience in what others have told me about why they do not prefer single men. I can tell you that "I" have had many men tell me that they have a wife or live in gf and that she is "not into it". In reality its safer for a man that is afraid of losing what he has to cheat on his partner in a swinger enviroment because the chances of it coming back to expose him is much less likely, no connections, no ties, no one knows someone that knows the other person, its very safe. Alot of single men have also told me that they feel that they are bringing excitement to a couples relationship that the husband can no longer provide or that the wife is simply bored with her husband and wants another. These misconceptions are what gives single men a bad name. Guys, seriously, as a woman I can tell you just because you get me excited in bed does not mean im falling for you or I just cant wait until I have you again, it does not mean that I do not get excited with my husband and it does not mean I will be with you when he is not there. I am not a booty call, I am not here to give you a safe ticket to adultry, I am a swinger, I believe in the value of a close friendship with others that you can be completely open, some of the best friendships I have ever had were with swingers that wanted FRIENDSHIP and showed RESPECT. In my humble opinion that is my and only MY definition of a swinger. This statement is not meant to represent any other swingers aside from myself so please do not imply that my statements are a canvas for the lifestyle, there was a question, this is my answer and opinion.

Secret facebook group for SLC? - - I actually started one: Northern Utah / Southwest Wyoming Swingers It isn't jumping yet, but would like to see more people added. Search for Nathan H., I live in Mtn View. I posted this in case you are interested in joining. I figured that if we were able to get a group going we could communicate in ways other than on here. The choice is yours, there is no pressure

Anyone been to Thursday Night SwingersCircle Las Vegas? - Anyone been to Thursday Night SwingersCircle Las Vegas? - [quote=NEWANDTHRILLED]Buttabing, you can't be on the list. The party does not list who will be there. You have to register (purchase tickets) online and then show up. You get a phone call about 2-3 hours before the party to let you know which hotel and room number. We have attended 4 times and had a great time all 4 times. As to who shows up, mostly average of any Lifestyle event. But you really should read what the party is before you go. It is NOT a meet and greet. It is for REAL swingers.[/quote] There are other sites than this one and yes, they had a list. We are glad your experiences have been good. As stated before, just our experience.

International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - [quote=ASHY][/quote] I guess it's the main night tonight. It doesn't seem to be a big thing in Utah.

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