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Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Alton, He's got you there. You did use the word "NIGGER" in the forum before Alton. You even called me a Nigger and told me that I listened to "NIGGER MUSIC". I think you should own it, if it's your opinion. -D-

Habits: Vanilla or Not? - How to tell the difference? - [quote=BMSHELL] This has been asked here many times before... [/quote] I figured. If only the forum search functionality would return something other than "The used table type doesn't support FULLTEXT indexes". One can always hack it through Google but that process leaves a bit to be desired. [quote=BMSHELL] 1) You can't tell by looking. [/quote] That's what we found too. We did not see a single pair of black rings walking around! ;) Though we did meet one couple that expressed regret for not wearing theirs once they noticed ours. [quote=BMSHELL] 2) If you really want to know, you'll have to ask them. [/quote] Certainly. We're just not inclined to ask unless we suspect something. The Mrs. was wondering whether a question like "Did we see you at Casino Royale?" might be enlightening. The reasoning is that only someone in the lifestyle will be familiar with the that event while others will take it to be a reference to the James Bond movie. [quote=BMSHELL] 3) Despite the fact that maybe 5% to 10% of the people there are swingers on any given weekend, it's not a swinger club, so if you're trying to meet swingers, it's very inefficient. [/quote] Meeting other swingers is definitely part of the motivation but we also like to dance. Our preference would be a swingers club with a dance floor. As far as we can tell that doesn't exist here so we're in search of the best approximation. [quote=BMSHELL] Sorry.. wish there was a better answer. [/quote] Thanks for the feedback none-the-less.

Alternate Semi Swinging Site? - FInding the right connections - [quote] Swinging is about equality, and fair exploration. If you say “I get to play, but not you” that’s not equal, it’s not swinging, and it’s not fair to all parties. It’s like calling it eating a meal together when one of you sits down to eat and the other only gets to sit there. Come up with your own name for it if you like, but it’s not swinging.[/quote] And there you have it folks! Swinging 101 from, again, a self proclaimed "Expert". So, what you are saying is... If my wife wants to "explore" with women, and I do not want or desire to be with other women, but LOVE to watch her with women and also enjoy the same room sex with her while the other couple feels the same... I think you are confused with peoples "preferences" vs. some kind of sinister "rule" that one has permission to play and the other does not and that someone is somehow "left out" or "not satisfied" with the situation. Nothing is further from the truth. Dictionary definition... swing·ing /ˈswiNGiNG/ adjectiveINFORMAL adjective: swinging (of a person, place, or way of life) lively, exciting, and fashionable. "a swinging resort" sexually liberated or promiscuous. <---- BOOM ! Kinda sounds like we are "Swingers" to me ..

Hello summer - Swingers couple party - [quote=MoreFun4U]If you don't know and understand the reason for these types of rules there is a good chance you're part of why they exist.[/quote] [quote=JB_SLC]Dick is abundant and low value. If we want an extra, it’s super easy to find. Having a bunch of single males at a party doesn’t really add to the party and can make the dynamics weird. It’s not personal (usually), it’s just the way it is! And frankly, single men attending parties (or demanding to attend) are usually a red flag unless a woman or couple can personally vouch for them.[/quote] I believe this about covers it. 👍

Why the male side of Couples are here...? - I will admit I am hoping to spark some heated debate on this.... - [quote=CPL4SOFT]Because every time the female half gets on all she gets is here's a pic of my cock, want to fuck? [/quote] At the risk of further pizzing off a few of the single dudes around here... That's because a fair number of guys assume that since you're swingers (i.e. you "allow" your partner to fuck other men) you must by default be a cuckold. It's bullshit and it unfairly affects the single guys who DON'T assume that married male swingers are all cucks (or won't openly admit it-lol). To be fair, we've run into more than a few married guys who feel this way too. They're easy to pick out because they say up front their lady doesn't fuck other guys or they try to bait and switch you after you meet. Okay, lemme have it! [em]Emo_12[/em]

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Yeah it’s called unspoken. women getting free There are no rules men have to pay couples and singles. it’s downstairs in the basement There’s no music there it’s quiet inside so people can talk and mingle.

Why are single guys being band from all the upcoming parties? - Did some clown out there mess it up for all single males? - Our group, (Tampa Bay Lifestylers), has a handful of single males. They are a select few. These guys are known around the area as decent respectable guys. They know how to work a room without "COCK BLOCKING" or pissing in anyone's corn flakes because they pay attention to the room. Most are smart enough to sort of lay back and watch. They know that all the couples or single women that ARE looking for a SM to join in will ask (if they don't already know), if there are SM's there. Our group does not play on the premise that (I AM GETTING LAID NO MATTER WHAT), and the guys know this. So none of these guys feel the need to push anyone. They also realize there will be more parties and that everyone is comfortable with them at a party they will be invited back again and again.. There are WAY more BI women in the lifestyle and this usually means that married guys are more likely to stand there. This makes for even less room for single men as well. COUPLES, (Which is where SWINGING came from), are more frequently looking for additional WOMEN to join in, thus brings in the single woman. Yes, there are the peeps looking for a single man to join or just take the wife away for play alone, but it is far less frequent. Therefore most groups and clubs are allowing all single women and only a few single men.. I have also heard couples talking about removing SM all together from parties and clubs. My thoughts are simple but controversial. I think SWINGING is a COUPLES thing. All singles are just dating or becoming "SWINGERS" to just plain get laid.. To me, and don't get pissy, if I were a single man and could get away with joining the SWINGER WORLD, I would do it in a minute because most in the lifestyle are in it SOLELY for sex.. Like a drunk working in a bar. Just a note for you single guys. Sit back and watch. Don't be pushy or try to impress women with your job or your possessions. They DON'T give a SHIT about what you do or where you live or your HARLEY. If they are interested in you it is all about your body and your COCK!!! So try laying back and letting them come to you. I know this works VERY VERY WELL for my single male buddy..

STD/STI Testing - - [quote=TOKI_WARTOOTH][quote=MAYBEMOR]This is the attitude we find so prevalent!!! Play on to your hearts content. [/quote] We can be tested regularly and play safe without being a paranoid little jackwagon. Maybe the attitude you have is why your postings got deleted off other sites.[/quote] No, Toki, you are the Jackwagon! The way you responded to this thread is an obvious display of your lack of intelligence about this issue. Maybemor and others are just attempting to make this lifestyle a little safer for all involved. Not sure if you read much but there was a situation recently in Kansas City where a man and his wife were HIV Positive and managed to put a number of people at risk of contracting HIV, and these are supposedly "swingers" who know better. I've been to parties for over 4 years!! Not everyone uses condoms. Maybe you do! But even a condom isn't going to protect you against Herpes!! You always use latex with oral sex Toki.. hmm... probably not.. and guess what, you are putting yourself at risk for Herpes! Even if you get tested for Herpes you still are at risk. You could have contracted it on the weekend, go in on Monday get tested, the whole gamut of tests, get negatives on everything. Then two to three weeks later you come down with itchy bumps that turn into sores, oh shit, guess what.. yep.. you just were infected and are now positive for Herpes.. Why.. because you don't get it!!! The reason we need more people to talk about this is people are getting STD's on this site and others like it. I applaud Rob and his willingness to do what some of you may think is not needed. Toki is a prime example of why you don't play with just anyone! Sure you can't stop everything all the time, and frankly anytime you have sex with multiple partners it's a risk. But let's not be stupid folks, let's be careful. You only have this life to live, why fuck it up for yourself and the one you love because you are stupid? PS.. I wrote a long post a few months ago about our own experience with the STD issue. I received a number of posts about others who carry HSV2. Interesting thing is some of these people who have HSV2, DO NOT always tell their potential partners they have the disease. Why? PURE IGNORANCE or just they don't give a shit (which is worse). I want to make sure everyone knows, this is MR ABC who is writing this post.

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - It's the door with the little ghost on it on 25th St. We walk by it but can't figure out how to get in. Saw a post on here a while ago mentioning it.

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - done. I must say, the responses were quite interesting.