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Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Don Juan wrote: Utah, I have every right that you have. I earn them, one could argue more than you do, because I think for my damn self, and I challenge ludicrous bullshit that swallow whole. You, on the other hand, take the easy way out. So I dare. Over and over. No matter how furious it makes idiots like you. Those who would give up freedom to gain a little security deserve neither. Recognize that paraphrased sentiment? It applies to you. ______________________________________ TSK TSK, so other than spout "Conspiracy!". What have you done? Besides talk. I don't see you fighting for your beliefs. If the U.S. is so bad, Revolt! I'd love to see you coming the other way. I'd bleed you real slow. You sir are a traitor, an enemy sympathizer, and a coward. Everyone sees you for what you are. Keep it coming. I want everyone to see you for the yellow worm you are.

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I too have had this question SO many times! Not only do I wish I had “Swingdar” as 1DIVA put it, but I wish I could tell which women were into other women! Life would be so much easier if I could read minds...

What makes you ignore vs. view a particular profile? - - Did you see our attachment, you go on a date without seeing pics first, this is what you will have knocking at your door.. LOL. Ok, there seems to be an underlying theme here.... PICS!!! Holy crap people everytime I see an email or think someone is cool in the chat room and click on their profile and it has "0" pictures, it really pisses me off. How many people out there do you think would honestly meet someone or a couple without seeing them? I've even asked the question and have had people tell me honestly that they have met people without seeing them!! No Freakin Way! Look, we aren't pretensious, and are the first people to hang with and find friendship and great qualities in everyone we meet. BUT, and that's a big but (no pun intended lol), we aren't sleeping with everyone on here. There is a thing called "chemistry" and "attraction". Unfortunately for us, we aren't out to get banged by every willing couple. If we click, and there is great chemsitry, chances are HIGH that we will hook up. But I'm here to tell you, if we can't see you and you don't post your pictures, you're wasting your time. And DONT try and IM us at yahoo wanting to chat if you don't identify yourself. If we could design and develop a swingers website, pictures would be a prerequisite. No Pics, No Profile, period!! Am I sounding harsh? I hope not, but it's the truth damn it! So PUT YOUR PICS ON YOUR PROFILE!! Thank you. Uthotcplextreme.

Moving to Utah - - [quote=PEGBUNDY]wow! such mis-information - look at the stats of property evals and such - for the love of Buddha... one can make an intelligent assessment based on fact.[/quote] She is pretty close to correct. I have lived elsewhere but I like Utah. It does have its quirks but so does everywhere else. Life is what you make of it. There are areas with problems, mostly socio-economic in nature. Poor areas have more crime as a rule. Thus many of the older areas have higher rates of crime and problems in school but not all. 55 to 60 percent of the people in Salt Lake and Davis counties are non-LDS. However since the LDS are evangelistic in nature they have a tendency to want you to come to church. Most have gotten past the idea that letting their children play with non member children is a problem. Once they know you are not interested in joining they tend to leave you alone if you wish. But there are lots of good LDS and Non LDS neighbors. Work with a realtor and find an area in your price range where there are other children close to yours in age. On the north of SLC, Bountiful through Layton will be more rural as will Harriman and daybreak areas to the South West. There are a lot of nice new homes in the south west corner of Salt Lake County. The east bench tends to be more money but not always. In Utah property taxes pay for schools. The Provo/Orem area does have more LDS folks by percentage but not necessarily fewer swingers.

What is it to being a swinger couple - Is it always this way - When you hook up with a couple, you are hooking up to the part of their life they in general want to keep secrete. They don't want you as friends that will filter into their everyday normal life. And there is always times where you know the other couple are great people, but the sex just was not that good. Most all sex is fun, but some sex is way better. You have to be able to sep real life friends and sex friends, its not often they mix well. People have their family, jobs and life in general to protect and don't want you close to any of it or should I say will risk having you close to it. It's not personal, it's reality and swinging is fantacy and you were a booty call. If you find true friends, generally the playing stops. You don't want to risk true friends for a quick piece of bootie. We see swingers who seem to have play friends that work, but if we see them a year later. It has almost always chaged for some reason. So relax, have fun and move on. There will be couples you do not want a play date with again too. :)

Disappointments! - - Hello everyone, :) we just wanted to say HI and ask a simple question. OK ............ we have been in the life style for about three years now, and too this date we continue to have a problem with meeting people. We (well we think anyway) discribed exactly what we wanted but we still have people who want one-night stands and quickies. Were not into that at all. We enjoy getting to know people, we don't have a problem with playing on the first date if we feel it will lead to other dates. But so far NO LUCK, We feel we've been used and abused. And now we've really clamped down, but now our problem seem to be meeting people who are just PLAIN FLAKES. Were in Texas as our profile says, and trust me folks the swingers in Texas arn't what they claim to be. They either want a quick screw or are people who drag you into meeting them and then you discover that they are SPACE CASES. One or the other has a sever problem with there mate being with someone else. ANYWAY............. I guess what were really asking is what are we doing wrong. And are we LOSER magnets ??

Another Swingers Show on TV - - I am so sad I missed it! I was at a swinger party... dang! But then again I was getting done (for my first time) by a woman with a strap on. Oh well next episode.

Church Swingers, are they out there? - - I myself, believe that things such as religion (or spiritualality if you prefer) and sexuallity are a personal thing. I think the comments made by SHRED sum it up rather nicely. Having studied religion for 12 years in the catholic school system it seems that most of the organized religions I have any knowledge of, have lost the real point made in the New Testament anyway. It seems often that what is being preached is not what is being practiced or in some cases things have been taken out of context to stress some point of faith or morallity in a distorted way. I personally can not believe that God would want us to live our lives this way. I have to agree with those who say "live and let live" or "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". That seems to be the message I got out of all that religious instruction, but not necessarily what I saw being practiced. To those who feel they can balance religious practice with this lifestyle, I would say do so if it works for you. It is your personal choice. and thats the way it should be. Enough about religion from me, Mr. Lusty

Signals, Identifying 'markers' - Do scarves, jewelry, or other items worn a certain way ID you as part of the lifestyle? - We have never heard of the gold ring but the pendant that is growing in popularity in Utah seems like a nice way to distinguish swingers in crowd. Being both straight, we prefer to be upfront and just say it like it is so there are no surprises. We have brought the pendant up in a few groups we belong to or run here in Florida and hope we can follow Utah and make this the universal way to find each other in a crowd.

$5.00 OFF SALE FOR YOUR XMAS NAUGHTY NEEDS AND WANTS - ANYTHING IAM SELLING U CAN GET $5.00 OFF NOW UNTIL THE NEW YEAR - A FEW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WRITING ME TELLING ME IT IS A PAID WEB SITE . YES IT IS A PAID SWINGERS SITE . BUT THE AUCTION PART IS FOR ANYONE TO USE . U DONT HAVE TO BE A MEMBER TO BUY STUFF OFF THERE . WHEN U SEE THE MAIN PAGE . U WILL SEE THE BUTTON FOR AUCTION . JUST CLICK ON THAT . AND THEN IT WILL LTAKE U TO THE AUCTION PART . AND ANOTHER QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THE TIME ON THE AUCTION . U CAN USE THE BUY NOW BUTTON AND THEN THE ITEM WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE AND IT WILL BE YOURS . OR U CAN BID ON IT WITH OTHERS . ONCE SOMEONE HAS BIDDED ON IT . THE ONLY WAY TO BUY ITRIGHT THEN AND THERE WOULD BE TO BUY IT NOW . IF NOT THEN YES U DO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE BIDDING TIME IS OVER . I MADE IT FOR TWO WEEKS SO YOU COULD STILL GET IT IN TIME FOR THE XMAS PARTIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT . AND WHEN U MAKE PAYMENT FOR IT . PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THERE IS A $5.00 OFF SALE GOING ON NOW .ON ANYTHING IAM SELLING . NOT SUCH XMAS STUFF . SO U CAN TAKE THAT OFF THE REG PRICE FOR EACH THING U ARE BUYING .AND PLEASE ONLY MAKE PAYMENT FOR WHAT U OWE ME INCLUDING THE SALE . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY