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Is it a “preference” or is it “ discrimination” - - [quote=EVILDOERS]Discrimination can be against non-physical attributes as well (Political and religious are the two most obvious nowadays.) But I would call almost everything else a preference, at least as far as swinging is concerned.
One of the biggest hurdles we found when we first entered the lifestyle was people who were upset that, for whatever reason, we didn't want to fuck them. Their mindset was, "We're swingers and you're swingers so what's the problem? Let's fuck!" We did, eventually, come to the realization that in some instances our first impression, based on looks or whatever, could be overcome, in time, by getting to know people better and eventually finding a different kind of attractiveness that trumped simple physical attraction. YMMV[/quote]
Oh of course discrimination can be against non-physical ... my question was can a non-physical attribute be just a preference and not be discrimination .. it sounds like you think so ... other than maybe with political or religious?
Hmmm so let’s say someone keenly despises Trump, or Bernie (not that anyone does lol) .... like really can’t stand them. And someone crazy hot that LOVEs Trump, like wears a red MAGA hat loves, wants to hook up ... Could the political disposition “preference” still be only a preference, and not discrimination, if it gets in the way of any possible sexual attraction ?
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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - [quote=EVILDOERS]Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em] [/quote]
Damnit! Evildoers is right again!
Another reason swingers live longer. - - I've already started my new company. I'm setting up kiosks in malls where I personally will be performing cancer prevention therapy to hot young chicks. My associate will take care of all the non hot women who need squeezing. "Get yer fresh squeezed bobbies here!"
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - We all meet with people we aren't compatible with. It's the nature of the beast. Why focus on the shitty times? It appears you've had successes. Focus on the positive :-)
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Cypress Cove Nudist Resort & Spa - Information - Cypress Cove is very nice. It is the oldest nudist resort in Florida, but has had many improvements. There are two pools, a hot tub, resturants and a large lake that you can paddle boat in.
The crowd is older than Paradise Lakes or Caliente so you will feel young. There are swingers around, but atmosphere is pretty quiet. The accomodations are very nice, close to the pools and the other activities.
I am sure you will enjoy your stay. We love to go there for a quiet weekend getaway and we do know a lot of other couples in the lifestyle that go there.
Have Fun
Gary and Kathy
What sets you apart from other swingers - Lets see whos looking for what. - And don't we all just LOVE it when the naked man shows up at the party ;) I know I do... hehe (He looks damn good in my robe too ;) )
Best swingers club for a 26m/36f couple - - [quote=Mrnmrsb]I would recommend playhousLV for people your age. Just my personal experience. We've been to all of the above mentioned ones in vegas and the crowd at those clubs were much older. PlayhouseLV has been amazing every time we've been. Always a good crowd of attractive younger people. Lots of play spaces and always a ton of people playing. We get lucky every time we go there. When we went to flirts all older people literally just hanging at the bar drinking. I kid u not. Not a single room was being utilized to play in. EXTREMELY BORING. Whispers we left 5 minutes after walking through the door because the crowd was much older. And not very attractive.[/quote]Agree with you on this! Flirts definitely depends on the night and if you went when it was newer it may have been that way. Still a little older crowd but when we went last time we had to wait to use a bed/room!
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