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This lifestyle - What are we really? - Well I think that is crap. We are TRUE swingers by all means. We have sex with other partners. We do NOT make love to anyone else. We do NOT love anyone else but each other. However, we do have very good friends that we can hang out with and have a great time with, with or with out the sex taking place. So by your definition we would be Poly. But we do not love anyone but each other. We have swinger friends that we just hang out with and not have sex. We have B-B-Q's and let the kids play and then the next night we might all play. We exchange B-day gifts and all that jazz. We love them as friends but that is as far as it goes. In fact we have very few vanilla friends left because we get along with the lifestyle friends so much better. Please don't take that first sentence as rood, it's just that read your comment to agree with our outlook on the lifestyle but we define it differently.

2007 Tribute to the Troops - Post your media here :-) - TR was just trying to make a tribute to our troops, something posistive. Whether ppl agree or disagree with them being there, I am with Don.....THEY ARE THERE either way!!! I do believe that this site isn't the place to be debating that point. In either case, there are fellow swingers on this site that are military couples/ppl so what is so wrong with showing some tribute and thanks to them. Why turn it into a negative battle........Thanks TR for starting a thread and showing some thanks and appreciation for those serving our country. Ignore those that turn it into negativity. I am sure those in the military do appreciate your intent. I did enjoy the links....

Swingers gone bad?? - - Still agree what was done is a wrong but I was just thinking of an old movie, "The Summer of '42" and can't remember any public outcry about a movie showing some young boy being mentally scared by an older lady. (Great movie BTW - nominated for over a dozen awards and winning two. It also allowed for a great standing joke as a teen saying "I'm bringing the marshmallows - what are you bringing? See the movie for the answer - good training for swingers) Maybe I'm wrong but I wonder who needed the drinks to do this more - the teens or the adults. I'm too long from 16 to know for sure but can't say with any level of certainty if I would have turned down a older women wanting to teach me. Guys - would you have run from an offer like this as a teenager? Still wrong and I know for sure I have a major double standard because I wouldn't feel the same if this was a 15 year old girl. Could be because I'm a guy and have daughters. I find it hard to understand the "why" of doing it with the risk. I also doubt any young teen would have that much to offer (I do remember a bit from those days and can say for sure my best performance did not occur in the back seat of my parents car!) Max

"Swinger Robots"?? - WtF?, Now, on top of everything else, we have to worry about Robot Swingers? - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=UPLIFTYOURLIFE]Priceless[em]Emo_9[/em] [/quote] How do you know those are nuts? Could easily be a baby crowning...or a tumor...or a massive hemorrhoid and/or prolapsed rectum.[/quote] Since this is a thread about robots and he posted an old, very non-robot transphobic meme I'd say [b]knowing [/b]isn't UPLIFTYOURLIFE's strongest suit.

YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - the way we look at it,,,,all these couples who "won" the cruise,,,,owes a round of drinks..!!!!! (wink)

What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - Didn't read all this but one word sums up swinger to us: SWAR "Sex Without A (romantic) Relationship". We have our personal opinions, but aside from SWAR, who are we to tell another couple, male, or female what "qualifies" them as swingers?

real members? - - WOW DID THIS THREAD TURN FAST . BACK TO THE FIRST POST ABOUT HER AFRAID SOMEONE IS GOING TO BREAK INTO HER HOUSE . YES IAM SURE IT CAN HAPPEN . BUT I DOUBT VERY MUCH THAT IS FOR THEMOST PART ANYONES PLANS . BUT LIKE SOMEONE ELSE SAID U TAKE THAT CHANCE EVERY TIME U LEAVE THE HOUSE . GET AN ALARM OR A BIG DOG OR LET THE PEOPLE IN YOUR AREA KNOW U ARE LEAVING AND TO PLEASE WATCH YOUR HOUSE. I THINK I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE WORRIED ABOUT MEETING THEM AT A CAMP PLACE FAR AWAY AND NOT KNOWING THEM .DONT U WATCH SCARY MOVIES ??????? I WOULD NEVER MEET A STRANGER IN THE WOODS . ALOT OF PEOPLE GET TO NERVOUS ABOUT THE FIRST MEETS . SOME LIKE THE DINNER THING . BUT MOST DONT . WE ALWAYS TELL EVERYBODY TO JUST COME TO THE CLUB AND HANG OUT . OR IF THEY HAVE KIDS THEN WE CAN MEET AND LET THE KIDS PLAY AND JUST HANG OUT AND GET TO KNOW THEM . MOST LIKE IT LIKE THAT . NO NEED FOR A SITTER . NO NEED TO DRESS UP AND HAVE TO PUT ON A SHOW FOR ANYONE . JUST TWO FAMILIES GOING OUT AND HANGING OUT AND DOING SOMETHING FUN . AS FOR PEOPLE GIVING U THE WRONG PHONE NUMBER . THAT WOULD SHOW U THAT SOMETHING WASNT RIGHT . AS FOR THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE AND THE SYSTEMS OR PROGRAMS THAT THEY TRY TO MAKE IT SAFER . I DON T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT . FIRST OF ALL . TO GET AN ACCOUNT IS EASY . TO TAKE PICS OR DO WEB CAM TO PROVE U ARE A REAL PERSON IS ONE THING . BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE THE SAFER THEN ANYBODY ELSE . WE LIVE IN A REALLY MESSED UP WORLD . AND JUST CAUSE WE SHARE THE OPEN LIFE STYLE TOG DOESNT MEAN WE CAN FORGET THAT ITS MADE UP OF REG PEOPLE .SO EVERYBODY SHOULD ALWAYS MEET IN A PUBLIC PLACE AND PLAY IT SAFE UNTILL THEY FEEL OK WITH THE NEW PERSON .AND STILL BE ON THE LOOK OUT AND BECAREFUL . AS FOR GIVING THEM THEY ARE REAL SWINGERS SEAL . I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT ONE EITHER , THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NEW TO THE LIFE STYLE . SO THAT WILL LEAVE THEM OUT AND MAKE THEM LOOK BAD AND MAKE THEM FEEL PRESSURED TO PLAY WITH SOMEONE . SO THEY DONT LOOK LIKE FAKES . AND JUST CAUSE SOMEONE IS A SWINGER AND HAS PLAYED BEFORE DOESNT MEAN THEY WILL WANT TO PLAY WITH THE PERSON WRITING THEM OR WANTING TO MEET THEM . I THINK THE SEAL FROM A FRIEND WOULD BE OK . AND A GOOD IDEA . BUT IF PEOPLE ARE ONLY GOING TO WANT TO WRITE AND TALK WITH ONLY THOSE PEOPLE . THEN ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL MISS OUT ON THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE SITE AND THE AREA AND THE LIFE STYLE . I DONT ASK FOR ANY KINDA OF SEAL ON ANY OF THE SITES WE ARE ON . AND I DONT LOOK FOR THEM WHEN IAM WRITING TO PEOPLE . THAT IS ALL POINTLESS TO ME . SOMEONE THAT WAS A COUPLE WHEN THEY JOINED CAN NOW BE BROKEN UP . OR IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN A FRIEND WITH A FRIEND GETTING THE SEAL . I DONT LOOK AT THEM AS ANY SAFER THEN ANYONE ELSE . AND IF THEY HAD A SWINGERS SEAL OR NOT MEANS NOTHING TO ME . DOESNT MEAN THEYWILL WANT TO PUT OUT TO ME . OR ME TO THEM . AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO HURT ALOT OF HOOK UP S WITH NEW MEMEBERS AND NEW BIES TO THE LIFE STYLE . WE RUN A SWINGERS SITE . WE HAVE A TON OF PICS WITH US AND WITH FRIENDS THAT WE CAN SHOW WE ARE REAL PEOPLE AND WE DO PLAY WITH OTHERS . WE HAVE WEB CAM TO SHOW WE ARE REAL . WE ARE ON A TON OF SITES WHERE THEY CAN ALSO SEE US . IF THEY SEEM LIKE FUN PEOPLE WE WILL INVITE THEM TO THE CLUB TO COME AND HANG OUT WITH US AND EVERYBODY ELSE . JUST CAUSE I AM A SWINGER DOESNT MEAN I WANT TO PLAY WITH ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO PLAY WITH US . SO I WANT TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AND SEE IF WE CLICK . AND NO SEAL CAN TELL ME THAT . I HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND MEET PEOPLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS . I AM PROUD OF THE SITES FOR TRYING TO MAKE IT SAFER AND ALL OF THAT . BUT I THINK PEOPLE USE OR DEPEND ON THESE SEALS AND ALL OF THAT WAY TO MUCH .I THINK IT MAKES PEOPLE THINK THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE OK TO MEET AND THEY FORGET TO USE THEIR OWN JUDGEMENT ON WHEN AND HOW TO MEET THESE STRANGERS . SITE OWNERS ARE GIVING U A PLACE TO PUT UP A PROFILE AND TRY TO MEET PEOPLE WITH WANTS AND NEEDS ALIKE . HAVING SITES LIKE THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IN THE LIFE STYLE MAKING NEW FRIENDS . BUT THERE IS NO SEAL IN THE WORLD THAT CAN TELL U TO THROW CAUTION IN THE WIND AND FEEL 100% SAFE WITH ANYBODY . SOME MIGHT FIND THEM HELPFUL . BUT PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT U NEED STILL NED TO BE VERY CAREFUL . AND ABOUT YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ADD AND REAL NAMES AND ALL OF THAT . ANYONE CAN GET THAT AT ANY TIME . BUT BE VERY CAREFUL ON WHO U CHOOSE TO TELL IT TO . NO ONE THAT DOESNT KNOW U NEEDS TO KNOW ANY OF THAT STUFF . THEY CAN HAVE EVERY SEAL THAT IS EVER MADE UP BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY STILL ARENT CREEPY . SO PLEASE BECAREFUL AT ALL TIMES . SEAL OR NO SEAL . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - [quote=EVILDOERS] We may have to agree to disagree here. We've been in the lifestyle for almost 3 decades and have talked to countless people (yes, many of them even women-haha) who have talked openly about the fantasies they have and have had and sometimes, sadly, how often those fantasies were stifled to some degree or another by societal expectations and repression as well as suppressed by how they were raised by their parents (especially their mothers..."Good girls don't do/say/think things like that."). [/quote] This is just anecdotal and you are failing to realize that you are talking to them in a LS scenario where everyone wants to be the super open and cool movie star-like swingers. Same reason all SM's in the LS are respectful, kind and the Good Lord's gift to couples seeking MFM or even the ones that are not. We all play The Imitation Game. They will talk to you openly, honestly, will tell you how much they enjoy it, how healthy for their relationship is. It almost becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. But, unless you were raised in a far away land where the LS was a norm and that we all know it has never existed, these confessions are an integral part of the illusion. And, if you take all that at face value, you are lying to yourself and even worst, believing it. [quote=EVILDOERS] It seems more than just a little condescending and even a little bit misogynistic.[/quote] I've been called worst lol. It's just biology, we think we are this almighty superior species, key to the universe, chosen to be sovereigns of all when all we are is just mammals with an unusually large brain victims of our own imagination and gullibility for the most part. And yes, imagination is sometimes good, that's how we got to the moon. But that's also why when you go to an Indian casino, you only see pictures last dozen big winners from last year but you don't see the thousands of losers of this week. Most of us are trapped in a dream and think we can make our own reality. "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." -Ecclesiastes 1:9

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Kitty, they go best with a light honey BBQ sauce :) Seriously, we live with only one ethical standard: Do not harm others unnecessarily. Simple and to the point. As to the difference between morals and ethics; I have always believed that morals are those things society pushes on you, be it your church, the law, family, ect, while ethics are those things you take for yourself and make a part of your own beliefs and actions. Do I view myself as moral? Not really. I have consciously chosen to ignore those things which society has attempted to push on me in favor of what I believe to be right and wrong. I obey laws I don't agree with not because I believe those laws to be moral, or myself to be moral, but because I do not wish the repercussions of breaking those laws. That and I live in serious red-neck country and our prostitutes are just downright scary .

Northern Utah Party ... Damn It! - We WILL hunt you down ... - I know this is a long rambling post. I hope you'll humor me. My intentions are good! :) I'm completely un-associated with the party heretofore mentioned. Wow--that sounded like lawyer-speak! OK, so there's a party coming up on Saturday in the Ogden area. I'm pretty much an expert on it 'cause I don't know the hosts, don't know the venue, and have never been there. [em]Emo_59[/em] But I've been to the Draper area version and can tell you that it's very classy. We're goin, but we may not be your cup-o-tea. But looking at the guest list, there are some VERY sexy folks planning on being in attendance. Ask yourself, why aren't YOU on that list? Now I've heard, here-'bouts, that it's kinda difficult to meet up with swinger-type people on here (or elsewhere). I'd not disagree. Having said that, wouldn't it be a good idea to support those folks who organize such parties? And show up, so that they continue? So that even more venues/parties are available in the future? So that more like-minded couples appear before your very eyes at similar parties? [b]Reasons NOT to go to the party:[/b] [i]You're shy[/i]. Screw you, so am I, now get yer ass to this party so that we can be shy together. [em]Emo_12[/em] Seriously, I'm so goofy on here that people expect me to be some kind-a comic in-person. I ain't. I'm shy. The written word is more my forte'. I've got to push myself (and quiet hubby) in order to attend these things. We always have fun and always meet at least a few new people. And everyone attending this party has agreed not to be "clique-ish" and to push their comfort zone by introducing themselves to at least three other couples/groups that they don't know, and to invite those couples into their inner circle. OK, they really haven't promised that. But they will after they read this. Or I'll bring that riding crop that I bought for the "50 Shades" party and beat them senseless with it. [i]You're new to swinging[/i]. I can't think of a better way to ease into it. These are not all out everyone rip their clothes off orgy kinda things. Why not? 'Cause the prudes won't let me have my way, DAMN IT! Errr...skip that last sentence. Anyhoo, there's typically some darkened rooms where, sure enough, folks are "smooching". Smooching may be a slight understatement. But the voyeurs peek in, the exhibitionists go for it, and us in-between types do a bit of both. No pressure, the comfort level and level of participation is up to you. A GREAT introduction to the swing scene. [i]Too Expensive.[/i] Crawl outa yer freakin' cave, would ya? [em]Emo_79[/em] Here's seven letters for ya that explain it: "Open Bar." Of course there's ususally some light snacks as well. And like I said, if you go to the right room, NAKED PEOPLE. Yeah, I know, makes that last porno DVD you bought seem overpriced, doesn't it? And hell, for me personally, hubby doesn't drink, and if I hit more than three drinks I typically wake up flat on my back, naked, legs spread, wondering why the hell I'm feeling so sore "down there." [em]Emo_85[/em] So yeah, I keep it to 3 drinks or less, but still feel that we get our $25 bucks worth as a couple. [i]You're an overbearing, pushy, arrogant, obnoxious, azzhole.[/i] Yer right. You really should stay home and enjoy some "alone time". [b]Reasons to Cum to the Party[/b]: [i]Lets be honest here[/i]: Who DOESN'T like to Cum, right? [i]Swingers are NOT just gonna fall right into your lap[/i]. Unless you come to this party. Or I hit the four drinks previously mentioned. Then gently ease my legs back together, would ya? [i]Even if you might be shy, you can meat, errr..."Meet", potential folks[/i] that you might want to communicate or hang out with later. Even vicariously as you see the interactions among other folks, you may just find some folks you're interested in. [i]There are lots of nooks and crannys[/i]. It's my understanding that there are various nooks, crannies, bedrooms, sitting areas, etc where people may gather. It can actually be a more intimate type thing than you might expect, so if you ARE shy, it's not like you've got to "perform" before a huge audience. OK, sorry, end of rant. I just feel it's a bit like politics. If you don't fully participate, quit yer bitchin! I'm not even going to attempt to articulate the names of the various party hosts that provide for such gatherings and venues. We have a great appreciation for their time and efforts and for sticking their necks out to do it ... you are ALL awesome. :) Oh, and if you do cum? Say Hi, OK? If you find a wild-haired redhead humping on your leg like a 2 year old un-neutered Irish Setter? That'll be me. [em]Emo_54[/em]