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Alternate Semi Swinging Site? - FInding the right connections - [quote] Swinging is about equality, and fair exploration. If you say “I get to play, but not you” that’s not equal, it’s not swinging, and it’s not fair to all parties. It’s like calling it eating a meal together when one of you sits down to eat and the other only gets to sit there. Come up with your own name for it if you like, but it’s not swinging.[/quote] And there you have it folks! Swinging 101 from, again, a self proclaimed "Expert". So, what you are saying is... If my wife wants to "explore" with women, and I do not want or desire to be with other women, but LOVE to watch her with women and also enjoy the same room sex with her while the other couple feels the same... I think you are confused with peoples "preferences" vs. some kind of sinister "rule" that one has permission to play and the other does not and that someone is somehow "left out" or "not satisfied" with the situation. Nothing is further from the truth. Dictionary definition... swing·ing /ˈswiNGiNG/ adjectiveINFORMAL adjective: swinging (of a person, place, or way of life) lively, exciting, and fashionable. "a swinging resort" sexually liberated or promiscuous. <---- BOOM ! Kinda sounds like we are "Swingers" to me ..

Parties - Venting - I think part of the problem is that the games ppl play ALWAYS have prizes and the prizes are getting bigger and bigger and they want to make sure EVERYONE that plays gets one. Of course they don't want anyone to feel left out sooo... Buy a bag of popscicles and say yeah everyone get creative with the person on your left (for instance) popscicles are cheap and if you make everyone in the game shuffle before you start the game then hell... You just met new people and sucked on something together, lol. Just trying to say get creative with inexpensive things... Decorations, prizes, games... NONE OF US ARE SWINGERS BECAUSE WE LIKE TO FIT IN WITH NORMAL PEOPLE RIGHT? This Saturday should be a great party. Idk cause we've never been but, Tif and Doug aren't buying everything for everybody. Bring your own meat (hell John and I each like different meat anyways) and everyone bring a side for Potluck kind of thing. Anyone who can bring a gift to give as many prizes out as they have gifts that are donated. Don't get me wrong I'm sure this party isn't FREE for them to throw but, the more people throw in the things that they just have generally laying around with them it's sure as hell got to cut the price of throwing the party back for them. It's not like all the prizes are all going to be cheap or anything either. (Idk what all the prizes are but just John and I are donating some AVON gift baskets $20-$150 values but, I sale it, it's discounted for me and I LOVE wrapping them so hell I'm giving something away so I can keep my stock current and Never let my product go bad, that's something that anyone who sales anything should be doing and, hell it's getting close to the end of the year so I get to give something away it makes people happy and I a few months its all a tax write off for me! How can you go wrong?). I can't think of ANYTHING wrong with it and my husband and I get to watch and participate in a wet t-shirt contest. Maybe those throwing the Hallowen parties should give prizes only to the people that come in costumes that were recycled, reused,given, loaned, homemade or made out of things they had in their house and NOT give prizes to ANY of the costumes that were purchased or that ANY money. That's the kind of party that's funnest to go to, when someone had to get creative about what to use and find a way to make it ALL free for everyone. Besides if you didn't spend $500 bucks to get your costume you won cry so much about weather you did or didn't win a damn prize. WE ARE ALL ADULTS RIGHT??? We don't ALL cry if we don't get what we want hopefully. There would probably be more parties for more people (not just people who that they know) we'd ALL have more fun if different people could come that just DONT now because of the cost we would all have more people to FUc|< if that changed. Everyone just ask Tif what they're doing to keep this BBQ as pay for your own meat and have some FUN!!! This one will hopefully be AWESOME!!!

sexy cities - favorite travel destinations - [quote=PARTYINLV]I thought about Vegas or Palm Springs. But, Cap d'Agde in southern France is the place to go. It's a nude city. Everywhere you go, people are naked. It has also attracted a large community of lifestyle and swingers. 30,000 naked people! We're looking for travel buddies! https://www.capdagdeguide.com/swingers/[/quote] Count us in! We love to travel, skiing the Alps in couple of weeks. Always looking for fun couples to go with us.

Why the male side of Couples are here...? - I will admit I am hoping to spark some heated debate on this.... - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=CPL4SOFT]Because every time the female half gets on all she gets is here's a pic of my cock, want to fuck? [/quote] At the risk of further pizzing off a few of the single dudes around here... That's because a fair number of guys assume that since you're swingers (i.e. you "allow" your partner to fuck other men) you must by default be a cuckold. It's bullshit and it unfairly affects the single guys who DON'T assume that married male swingers are all cucks (or won't openly admit it-lol). To be fair, we've run into more than a few married guys who feel this way too. They're easy to pick out because they say up front their lady doesn't fuck other guys or they try to bait and switch you after you meet. Exactly... Bty EvilDoers, you guys are awesome! We laughed so hard reading your profile! Xoxo!

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I'm playing doctor with my colon right now. I'm pretending a corona bottle is my scope. -D-

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Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - Funny as hell. But remember, you have to use the right bait at the right time of year. Or you could just go basics...

Gangbang - Finding men to gangbang wife - [quote=SLOWHAND311]Ah the monumental task of setting up a Gang bang.. If you want 4-8 you better have RSVPs from 8-15 since many may sign up but most won't show, unless you find a bachelor party, or hand out open invitations at a strip club, it's not an east situation to set up, even with days or weeks to organize it. Luckily one I set up that only one guy out of 7 showed up, had some good folks (four couples),here that filled in, and ended up a great night, and the woman got her gang bang, and the rest had lots of fun too. So I wish you success, it's almost as difficult as finding the perfect unicorn, but it can be done, just be patient and screen the men well, and invite several more than you need. [/quote] Funny reading posts like these I 100% agree with you, and at the same time, 100% disagree. About a year or so ago we thought about doing this and found a guy on another forum that set them up. During that year he has talked to my wife about doing one for her. So this Friday everything aligned that we could attend. He set it up for my wife and one other girl. he had 8-10 coming possibly 12. We said we would stop by, which we did, and the 8-12 equaled 1 and for him wife said "not in a million years" so we ended up having a fun mff with her and went home. BUT, from our personal experience we have done a total of 5 of these parties and they have not only been successful, we have always had more guys than we planned. The first was not planned, we were in Germany and the wife was drunk texting 4 potential playmates and gave them all the hotel address and time. Thinking of the normal Utah flake rate (as posted above by many) we expected 1 or maybe another arriving later. Well in Germany they show up! and when you say sorry she is playing, they don't care and just want to join or have others join. So we had a fun night of my wife taking 4 different cocks, having to shower twice from cumshots (she says getting a dual facial is an unforgettable feeling) and she has loved multiple guys since. Since that night we have done 4 other successful ones here in Utah, through this Forum. I could write a novel on the do's and don'ts but I won't. First write down exactly what you want, and when you advertise for it, use what you wrote down. I mean think about it, posting up "I want a bunch of guys to come gangbang my wife" is going to net you an inbox full of undesirables, cheaters, fake couple profiles with a "hall pass" - basically a bunch of dudes that came here to try to get laid. They failed vanilla, stopped here for a go with swingers, and next is stop is Fet life. Is this who you want taking turns with your wife? With all the disappointing stories above, I see a trend of likely bad advertising and poor planning. It's no knock on anyone, swinger parties (drinking and grabbing ass till 2:00 a.m.), play parties/orgies (where you answer the "how many other couples are coming" question 200 times the night of)are completely different than a gangbang. You make a simple post with no rules or structure then wade through an inbox FULL or crap and red flags. What you don't see is your post also is full of red flags for the people you actually want. These guys have done this before, and find performing for your wife and everyone watching exhilarating and are always looking for the next amazing rush. But they see your post, like your wife on the profile, but then they think - am I going to make all the preparations, drive there, show up on time to a room full of undesirables, wait for my turn to give said performance, and while trying to put on a show, having clothed people showing up late, drunk dudes talking because - wife said no way, or they can't get it up? Why would guys like this, the ones you want, show up to this? They likely have 5 hot wives they could play with on a Friday night. They want a true gangbang with a non talkative group of their peers, having rules, and trying to WIN the best performance of the night. The kind the other ladies in the room see and say "me next! Please!" What happens is they look over your post, look who is posting in it and kindly pass. Maybe sometimes they contact you and ask questions first, to find out if it is going to be worth it, and kindly pass as it seems like a numbers "quantity" game. Sorry, just my 0.02. Maybe part of the problem is not the guys, but the planner and the original post.

BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - as for your children seek professional help comprehensive Evaluations by children and family therapist this is not a joke ! this is no.1 a reason for children to commit suicide it happens alot to adopted children and to children who get up one day and doubt as if their parents are actual the real parents as for swinging the children may have now found evidence that the father is not the real father , thay are now in abuse and in need of help. {all i can tell you all here this is one of my professions i have worked with gov. agency for years } FOOTNOTE: for all parents that have children that Browse the net for your sake remove any I.D. photos of yourself that your child can see !!! in your profile add "lets chat on web cam" it is safe and you will get the best results.

STD/STI Testing - - Actually it was closer to 1981 When HIV became aware to the medical community in the US if that is what you meant by that 1989 date. http://www.avert.org/aids-history-america.htm HIV and HSV are the two nasties that should be of most concern for most swingers as they are incurable and HIV can be deadly. Both are costly in terms of lifelong medications but also in quality of life. They will be with you FOREVER! HSV can pass by something as simple as a kiss and or oral. Do clean test results mean something? YEs and No! Mathematically speaking the risk is related to a pyramid factorial equation. Meaning, for each new partner you have that is untested you are basically adding in the risk of not just that one person (Primary) but all the persons they have been with (secondary) and all the partners that those secondary people have been with etc etc.. HIV has been know to take up to 6 months of lag time from exposure to when it shows up on a test but 90 days is normally considered the standard waiting period. So any primary partner you play with who has been with someone in the past 90 days before they were tested still could have given HIV to you. Granted HIV is rare. But HSV is not! HSV cant take 2-3 weeks to show up on test results. 70-80% of the population will test pos for HSV as there are many folks who have the mouth cold sore HSV 1. To keep it simple sometimes in the testing HSV 1 really shows up as HSV2.. SO sometimes this means if you do test positive for HSV 2 it is really only HSV1. This is one reason Planned Parenthood will try to talk you out of this 160$ test One more thing to add. Most people still think as long as they dont have an open HSV 2 genital herpes outbreak they are good to go. This has been found to not be true. There is a relatively new phenomenon recognized in the scientific community called Viral shedding. http://herpes-coldsores.com/viral_shedding.htm Another worry that is rare but possible and I know of a recent case where a person gave someone Oral herpes HSV1 to the genital area of another person. There is also Chlamydia that everyone almost laughs off because a single dose of meds will cure it! The sad thing is if you got CHLAM you could have got HSV or HIV also as they run together. TO explain this if your had a partner that gave you Chlamydia they could have just as eaisly have given you some other things. SO what is the safest thing to do. No play with anyone other than your main partner. But if that is not what you wish then: The safest thing would be for both Prospective couples to stay monogamous for 90 days and then get tested. This is all true to the best of my studies but anyone please feel free to correct me.