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Has swinging changed? - - I've been trying to quantify the changes we're seeing but it's a little hard to pin down. For one thing, there seem to be quite a few people sticking their heads in and quickly retreating. Perhaps it's the ease of entry that allows "lookie Lous" to sort of check things out without really risking actually MEETING someone. LOL Another thing we've noticed is that there seem to be more people treating swinging as simply another way to hook up for NSA sex. I mean I know at it's core that's what swinging is but it's almost become a wham, bam, thank you ma'am culture rather than the sensuality of sharing your body with a caring generous lover. Foreplay almost seems to have become perfunctory (if it happens at all) and there's more of a "down and dirty by nine thirty" attitude than there used to be. It's almost a hit it and quit it or get in, get out, go home culture now. Many people just seem to be in such a hurry to fuck that they don't really want to take any time to get to know each other a little first. Maybe I'm seeing things but it just seems like it's changed a lot since we started swinging. I was talking to some people on another site and one guy postulated that the changes were due to the scene being so diluted by people with varied interests that there just aren't a lot of "pure" swingers anymore. I dunno, maybe I just need more coffee. [em]Emo_96[/em]

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - We're going to be there tonight.

Are you a Swinger or Liver? - - it's funny to me there's an option to turn of single dudes but not woment lol. just funny cuz it's exactly what we're looking for but because dudes are insecure creeps, they've ruined tryna swing somehow. In my mind, the term swing has been blasted with negativity because you nearly can't even say the word lol. Yet most swingers i've met, shouldn't be swinging which makes question the entire thine realizing theres a lot of differences between swingers and me. I feel as if swingers still have rule & since I don't, what am I. I guess I'm a liver. A liver is a person who just likes living and if a moment as it presents itself in time where if she or he is attracted you trust her as a grown adult being safe. So in my mind, a swinger could never be with a liver. Basically, if you have rules, you're a swinger, if you don't, you're a liver—what are you? To me, swingers need to grow up because it's a fact from the livers i've met, we're always with the finest women.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - ULUV, HAHAHA!!! Never had it. Is it any good? Oh and dude, if you change your fuckin' name, I won't respect you anymore. Fuck 'em, if they don't like it. I think it suits you and to tell you the truth man, I think it's a fuckin pimp assed name. You are who you are. That I do respect. I've read a lot of your posts and I have to say, you are a smart and funny dude, built like a brick shithouse and got pics to prove the ladies like ya. I think you never even needed this thread. You are one of the cool ones dude. I don't know if that means anything, but I would recommend you to our friends seeking the single gents. Guys like you T4REAL69, VALANCEPARADIGM (forgive me if I left any of you guys out) and a few others, proved to me that not all of you single guys are cocky, pushy, selfish fucks. You ever get this way, let's have a beer. Bring one though because the beer here sucks. Only state in the union that has 3.2 percent by weight beer (about 4% by volume). It's weak as fuck. That's a whole new Utah-based thread. -D-

New Lifestyle Club - Announcing New Club In Oklahoma - Anyone that's in Oklahoma may want to know there is a new swingers club opening this month. http://www.okccitynights.com

tired of the run around - - [quote=BADBOY8P]If your putting up a booty call then you can expect this !!! New people are scared it all sounds good talking about swinging but then when its going to happen that's when you see the drama or excuses at the last minute !!!! 90% of the people on this web site are not swingers it just sounds good and makes their own sex life better when they talk about it . And pregnant women are very sexy but you should of put that you were looking for a soft swap couple or a single female cause really you were just looking for some ones wife to please you and what fun is that for the man ?? I say get out to the house parties meet real people , relax a little we are not here to steal your spouses we are here for sex and friendships . Happy Humping J[/quote]Ohhhh...don't want to steal your wife, either..nope! Have to say I wouldn't mind "borrowing" her sexy self for a bit, tho...hehehe :) D

Wife's bday on 5th, suggestions? - What do you think or want to do - Not sure if this is something you would want to do, but this is what I did for my wife (ex-wife now) back in Calif. in the late 80's for our first year anniversary. I had it all planned out, keeping in mind that we had been swingers for a few years and had made a few friends...though we didn't get together with them as much as we/I wanted. Anyway, we lived about a 2 hour drive to Reno NV.. I had told my wife I wanted to take her to Reno for our 1 year anniversary and she was excited to go. Other stories of our playtimes in Reno will not be told at this time..lol. I had, behind her back talked to members of this group we were in...AFF group....and when all was said and done, 3 single guys and 2 couples(not counting us) ended up there. It was an incredible night to say the least...and obviously you would be substituting Wendover for Reno...lol.

LOOKING FOR LADIES THAT LIKE TO CAM FOR A JOB - MY SITE IS GOING TO OFFER WEB CAM SERVICE FOR ALL THOSE THAT LIKE TO PUT ON SHOWS - IS IT A SAFE JOB ???? THE SHOWS ARE DONE FROM YOUR HOUSE OR A FRIENDS OR WHEREVER YOU WANT TO SET UP A COMPUTER AND PUT ON A SHOW . THAT PART HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME .. OR THE SITE ITSELF . U PICK WHERE U WANT TO DO IT FROM . THE SITE HAS FREE CAM AMOUNG MEMBERS . WE ARE SETTING IT UP WHERE PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE TO DO IT FOR FREE . OR CHARGE . WHEN WE HAVE IT SET UP SO PEOPLE CAN CHARGE . U CAN STILL DO IT FOR FREE FOR THOSE THAT U WANT TO IF U DID WANT TO GIVE THEM A FREE SHOW . OR U CAN CHARGE WHOEVER THAT WANTS TO WATCH U AND WHO WANTS TO PAY . . U CAN PUT ON NAUGHTY SHOWS WITH YOU PLAYING WITH A TOY OR PLAYING WITH A SPOUSE OR FRIEND OR U CAN JUST TURN ON YOUR CAM AND LET OR CHARGE PEOPLE TO WATCH U DO ANYTHING . LIKE CLEANING THE HOUSE OR WORKING ON THE COMPUTER OR TRYING ON CLOTHES . WHATEVER U WANT TO SHOW . THERE IS NO RULES . THIS IS NOT A CAM WORKING SITE . WHERE WE TELL U WHAT U HAVE TO DO OR NOT DO . . ITS ALL UP TO U ON WHAT U WANT TO DO OR SHOW . WE ARE JUST OFFERING A SITE TO DO IT OFF OF . WE DONT PAY YOU ANYTHING . U HAVE TO EARN WHATEVER MONEY BY DOING WHAT U WANT TO THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WATCH U . SOME PEOPLE LIKE TO WATCH LADIES CLEAN THE HOUSE OR STUFF LIKE THAT , OR DIRTY CHAT WITH THEM . IF THATS WHAT U WANT TO DO THEN THATS ALL U HAVE TO DO . IF U CAN GET PEOPLE THAT WILL PAY U TO DO THAT THEN GREAT . THERE IS NO HOURS OR ANY RULES ABOUT STUFF THAT U HAVE TO DO OR WHEN .. U CAN JUST TURN ON YOUR CAM AND DO WHAT U WANT TO DO AND WHEN U WANT TO DO IT . THE ONLY RULES IS NO KIDS ANYWHERE IN VIEW . LIKE IF U ARE A STAY AT HOME MOM DONT TURN ON YOUR CAM TO JUST CLEAN HOUSE IF U HAVE A TODDLER WALKING AROUND OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT .AND NO KINDA OF PLAYING WITH PETS OR CRITTERS . ANYTHING ELSE IS UP TO U . WHAT IF SOMEONE YOU KNOW OR FAMILY MEMBERS COME ON ?????? I CANT CONTROL ANY OF THAT STUFF . CAUSE I DONTKNOW WHO YOUR FRIENDS OF FAMILY MEMBERS ARE . OR WHO U DO WANT TO SEE U OR NOT SEE YOU IN THE LIFE STYLE OR ON A SWINGERS SITE OR ON WEB CAM ... THE SITE IS OPEN TO ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO JOIN IT AND THEY CAN USE IT FOR THEIR NEEDS AS THEY SEE FIT . AS FOR YOUR CAMS . WHEN U ARE CHARGING PEOPLE THEN U WILL PICK WHO GETS TO SEE U OR NOT .U HAVE TO OK THEM TO SEE YOU . AND YOU WILL KNOW THEIR SCREEN NAME AND INFO . SO IT WOULD BE UP TO U TO SCREEN WHO U ARE PUTTING ON SHOWS FOR . AND I THINK IF U HAVE THAT MANY FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS LOOKING FOR STUFF LIKE THAT . THEN MAYBE YALL SHOULD GO INTO BUSSINESS WITH EACH OTHER AND START YOUR OWN SITE WITH CAM AND MAKE LOTS OF MONEY .. HA HA HA NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Las Vegas - Las Vegas - We haven't been, but do have a weekend planned the first of May... Did extensive research on Red Rooster and Green Door... and they both look gross. Really gross. (Like, worn down, 70s style venue where you could probably get an STD from sitting on a chair). Wife saw the pictures, read the reviews, and refuses to go anywhere near them. Swingers Circle looks more like a scam to me than a swingers club -- and after reading the reviews, I'm kind of disappointed that Swingular even allows them to advertise here. Couples Oasis and New Temptations are the two we intend to investigate when we arrive... but honestly, they're our backup plan if we can't find a fun couple to hit it off with, instead.

Christian Swingers - - I am an Atheist myself. However, I have seen lot's of people here that are Christians and also swingers. I personally think they can go hand-in-hand. It's not anyone's place to judge. This is why... There are plenty of people (all men) who "Covet thy neighbors wife" and both men and women commit adultry. Both of which are a "sins", according to the teachings within the bible. There are also intolerant fucks who judge others despite the teachings of Jesus etc. These hypocrites are just as guilty of sin, but consider themselves christians. Why can't a swinger be a christian??? So.... I say, that a christian is no more perfect than the next person. They're all aspiring to be godly, but all of them sin. According to bible (no matter how absurd it is), lust and sex, outside your marriage, is evil. It's among all manner-o-sin outlined in the book-o-don't (bible). So, since no one is perfect and all of us sin to some degree, why is this even an issue? I would say to all those hypocrites, "Unless you are perfect, you can jam your judgments up the posterior end of your alimentary canal." As a great man once said... "Fuck Those Fuckin' Fuckers!" -D-