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On a serious note... - A court case that could effect lifestylers with children -
IMPORTANT COURT CASE MAY AFFECT SWINGERS WITH CHILDREN NATIONWIDE!!!
URGENT NOTICE TO RESPONSIBLE PARTICIPANTS IN THE ADULT LIFESTYLE
This Notice is directed to all swingers, exotic dancers, adult
business owners and anyone involved in the adult industry. There is a
very important legal case going on in the state of Florida which can
affect everyone in the swinging and adult community nationwide who
has children under the age of 18.
Deltadawn who is a fairly well known member of the swinging community
in the Tampa Florida area has lost her right to see her 2 1/2 year
old baby girl simply due to being a swinger. Deltadawn had shared
custody of her 2 1/2 year old baby girl with her "ex," who happens to
be an attorney. He found out that she was in the swinging lifestyle
and has filed a motion with the Hernando County Court of Florida to
remove all of her parental rights, primarily on the basis of her
swinger lifestyle.
THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE COULD HAVE VERY SERIOUS AND
DETRIMENTAL REPERCUSSIONS FOR EVERYONE IN THE ADULT LIFESTYLE.
The outcome of this case is critical and could set precedent for
everyone involved in any form of the adult lifestyle nationwide. If
the argument that participating in the adult lifestyle reflects
adversely on parental rights, losing this case could open a Pandora's
Box for lifestylers with children across the country. An adverse
decision in this action could mean that anyone, gay or straight, with
children could be at risk of losing their children and having their
parental rights stripped away, simply because of the lifestyle that
we all enjoy. Swingers and everyone in the adult entertainment
industry would have to live in fear that they may be turned in and
could lose their children simply because of our lifestyle choice.
WINNING THIS CASE COULD HELP ESTABLISH CASE PRECEDENT AND HELP
PROTECT OUR PARENTAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
Winning this case will mean loving parents do not have to live in
fear that our legal system, some governmental agency, or some
adversarial parent, will have the ability right to terminate your
parental rights or take your children, simply because of a lifestyle
choice that never involves well nurtured children.
The rejection of private sexual lifestyle as a basis for terminating
parental rights will set precedent that could serve to protect those
in the lifestyle or in the adult entertainment business from
unjustified intrusions into their personal lives. Under the U.S.
Constitution we should have the right to our lifestyle choice without
censure, condemnation and fear of losing our children.
Deltadawn has retained Luke Lirot as her attorney in her fight to
maintain her parental rights. Luke Lirot is one of the premier
Constitutional and adult civil rights attorneys in the country (you
can do an internet search of him to verify his credentials). He is
constantly traveling all over the country defending peoples civil
rights and is a true champion of justice. He is constantly in the
newspaper and often appears on television nationwide. As any lawyer,
he depends on his clients to provide him with a living, and Justice
comes at a price. Deltadawn needs your help...
We need all people involved in the swinging community and adult
industry, nationwide, to reach into their pockets and contribute to
her legal defense fund by donating what help they can to attorney
Luke Lirot.
THE OUTCOME OF THIS CASE COULD HELP US ALL
Please make checks or money orders payable to: LUKE LIROT, P.A.
(Please write in "Deltadawn Legal Defense Compensation" in the memo
section of your check or money order)
For further information, please contact:
Luke Lirot
Attorney and Counselor at Law
112 N. East Street, Suite B
Tampa, FL 33602
(Tel) 866-387-8469 (TOLL FREE), OR 813-221-9533
(Fax) 813-221-9175
Email: [email protected]
We sincerely appreciate your goodwill and support in this urgent and
important matter!
POST SCRIPT FROM LUKE LIROT:
This legal battle is truly tough. Deltadawn's lifestyle experiences
are being used as a weapon to try and take a loving child, much in
need of her mother's love, away from her. To stop this effort, we
must employ every possible tool at our disposal. We need the services
of psychologists, social workers, and other professionals to show
that Lifestyle characteristics, never revealed or foisted on any
child, have no detrimental impact on children.
Under Florida law, like virtually every other jurisdiction in the
nation, the factors evaluated by the courts are whether parental
contact "is in the best interests of the child." To do this, we need
to show that participation in the Lifestyle, in and of itself, does
not make anyone a bad parent.
There are only a few formalities. Under Florida Law, Rule 4-1.8(f) of
the Rules Regulating the Florida Bar governs "Compensation by Third
Party," and allows for parties unrelated to the litigation to pay
fees and costs on the clients behalf.
The Rule states:
Compensation by Third Party. A lawyer shall not accept compensation
for representing a client from one other than the client unless:
1)The client consents after consultation;
2)There is no interference with the lawyer's independence or
professional judgment or with the client/lawyer relationship; and
information relating to representation of a client is protected as
required by Rule 4-1.6 (confidentiality of information)."
If these conditions are acceptable to you, and you care about this
important case, we would welcome your help.
These donations are not tax deductible, but they are evidence of true
human kindness. Thank you!
-Luke Lirot-
Kink Community and Fetlife.com - What do you guys think? - It's a whole different world! We haven't found a whole lot of swingers in the BDSM community but have met some very awesome and open people. We found the "play parties" to be a bit awkward but enjoyed fetish night at area 51 and have also enjoyed some of the educational classes and munches. Overall we found its less about the sex and partying and more about community and education.
Swingers in Draper cause Super Dell to speed - - It this keeps up, legislature will soon require that we all carry a concelled swingers permit.
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - tonight after it was rinsed oh its right hand drive, with european engine management.. will be a serious contender in the may 19th autorama car show.
Las Vegas Swingers club - - We’ve heard whispers too. Sea mountain is a fun nude, ls resort. You’ll have to let us know where you wind up, and how it was.
Single Females/couples. What makes another couple stand out? - - [quote=Marman]What makes a couple stand out to you? We are new and VERY inexperienced. We aren't sure how to be noticed. How to connect with like minded individuals. What draws you to someone's profile? What makes you message them? What keeps you interested?[/quote]
The situation in Utah is different than many other localities because there is not much of a club scene. By that I mean swingers clubs, most large cities have at least one or more. These are places where you can meet friends to have sex or fool around or even make new friends. They are very popular in Houston, we have 5 clubs. While its not what we like many younger people do like them. You probably will not meet a single girl but you could meet a couple or single guy. Some couples prefer swinger resorts or cruises for sexual activity with others.
We prefer dating other couples and getting to know one another over drinks and if everyone agrees then getting naked and exploring our boundaries. Of course attraction is the first thing we notice but how a couple expresses themselves in their profile really makes a difference for us. Parties are also a great way to meet people and meet and greets are also. We have no problem emailing couples we are interested in or think we might be attracted to and we probably get a response 10% of the time and maybe end up meeting less than half the time. Usually if we meet something happens sexually if everyone agrees and is having fun.
Your profile reads well and you are young and attractive. You need more pictures of the both of you even if they are just fully are partially clothed. One pic is unlikely to get the attention you seek. If you want to start with a single lady your chances go down significantly because there are few of them out there and they get to be particular on who they choose to meet. With single men its just the opposite, there are many and they will mostly meet anyone. Look at some of the other profiles and see what you like and try to incorporate that into your profile. If you decide to be really particular on who you meet then you will probably meet fewer people. Patience and a sense of humor about the whole thing will go a long way in helping you have fun times in the lifestyle.
Who is going to Younge swingers week HEDO? - anyone going? - We're going to be there for a few days, overlapping the with the group from the previous week. We love HEDO!!!
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=UTHOTCPLEXTREME][quote=TheSultansOfSwing]We would be interested. Safety is important to us. We're brand new to the LS and we want to proactively get vaccines and tests to show our safety if we can find other couples that can prove theirs[/quote]
Vaccines? For what? If you’re worried about Covid the vaccine will protect you. We don’t require Covid vaccines. So of that is a requirement, this would be the wrong group for you.[/quote]HPV vaccine is frequently recommended.
Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=WILDONEZ2004][quote=TIFFND][quote=HAOPENGYOU]Before we moved to the coast 3 years ago, we were pretty active in the Utah lifestyle, and it definitely seemed more active and vibrant than it does now, at least insofar as we can judge from activity on this website. Back then we would regularly do things with the same three couples, all of whom we met on Swingular, and we notice now that two of their profiles are no longer here on this site. So you might be right, although we hope not, because we had a blast with this in Utah.
When we did make the move out of Utah, we switched to another website, as Swingular is strongly Utah-centric. In fact, we've never had a single communication on Swingular from anywhere at all outside of Utah.
Hey, if things get too sparse, come meet us in Portland, which apparently is the [url=https://www.prunderground.com/swingery-publishes-top-10-cities-with-the-most-swingers-in-the-us/00102465/]#1 swinger city in the country[/url]. We had no idea about that when we moved to Oregon, but we're not complaining. Go to Privata downtown if you ever have the chance.
And if you ever tell anyone that you're not interested in a physical relationship with them, and they lose it (happened to us one time), then they're no one you wanted to hang with anyway. You'll do well to be rid of them.
If any of you ever make it to the coast, you're invited to sip wine with us and watch whales from our deck.
Best of luck to you. And Happy New Year.[/quote]
Our point originally was that perhaps these people aren't really as fake, as they are private. I think the scene here is actually still doing quite well! It's just changing. In our case, we're just not as "out there" anymore as we used to be....And kind of feel like maybe that's true for a lot of folks. And maybe it's our age...we are 10 years older now...and not exactly in high demand. That said...we just may have to do a bit of whale watching in Portland, someday.....[/quote]
When we started nearly 10 years ago, we made MANY more connections through this site. Now...not so much. We’ve changed. The scene has changed. I remember bi-guys being afraid to mention it for fear of outright hostility. We now prefer a connection, and to meet first to see if the connection is there, if they are in fact real, and to see if they “creep us out.” We do enjoy finding new friends, even if it is just for the night, all the better of more than that. And just finding people who are a bit more liberated to share some company even if there’s no play involved is also great. We have much more to offer than a good roll in the hay, as do most people, and the hay rolling is awesome, but enhanced by an intelectual and mutual respect.[/quote]
Well said!
Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - Ever seen Zebra Lounge? Give that movie a whirl!
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