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Swingers gone bad?? - - Ummmmm.....That CAN'T be good.......
Our Family knows... Now what, any advice? - - Recently our family confronted us about swinging. All our family meaning both sets of parents, and siblings plus spouse confronted us. We didn't deny that we are swingers. They were concerned for our health and well being. They also gave us an ultimatum to quit because they said it
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Swinger night or not, it’s a pretty cool basement club.
Are you still interested! - Dynamics amoung swingers - I wouldnt say the dynamics of our friendships changes so we arent interested in swinging any longer with friends we have made, maybe just we go through stages where we dont want to share each other for awhile, or we dont feel as playful as we do other times. Like some of you, I am sure, life just gets busy and there are better things to do and worry about. We have had friends in this lifestyle that we have had for quite sometime and we havent lost interest in them in that sexual way at all......sometimes we just like to hang out with them and call it good. We think it is nice to have friends that we can play around with when everyone is in the mood for it, but that we can all just hang out without the pressure lerking behind that you need to play at the end of the night......that isnt what we want out of this.
A question for singles..... - and please be honest. - After reading some of the comments... It begs the question aren't the singles on here advertising the fact that they are or want to be swingers? Looking for partners to explore the swinging experience? Or are they just people who are looking to get free sex? I'm not saying that any of it is wrong but singles used to date then have sex and then get involved with others. I'm not sure when the swinger sites became dating sites for sex starved singles. Not saying it's bad or good just asking.
Las Vegas looking for swingers info. - - There isn't a " Swing " hotel per say....When the Lifestyle convention is in town they have Hospitality Suites in different hotels..... Check Out www.plushparties.com and www.couplesoasis.com ....The red rooster is wild, but has tons of single guys... the Oasis ( also wild ) doesn't allow them unless a cpl brings one.
Good luck
Vcpl45
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - [quote=LUVTHEFUN]We don't like condoms. But we have heard the HPV vaccine is not recommended if you are older than 26, 30, or 45 (depending on the type of vaccine). Not sure the options, other than a small group, tested regularly, would be ideal.[/quote]
It’s supposed to be less effective with older people mainly because most have been exposed to HPV in some way the older they are. HPV is the number one STI… chances are you’ve had it and never realized you did, then your body got rid of it on its own.
As far as this thread goes, while it might sound ideal to have a small group of friends that are tested clean, the reality is it only takes one of those people to stray and play with someone outside of the group that’s infected with something… then they will bring it into the rest of the group. It would take a whole lot of honesty and trust to make something like that work. Can’t control other people if they decide to have sex with others outside the group… and you’d never know if they put you at risk if they decided to keep quiet.
Testing in this LS is a funny thing to us. If you’re active in this LS and are playing with others that are also active, those clean STI results become useless very quickly. You would have to test after each new partner, and after waiting through an incubation period first. Couples that say they have “recent tests” are usually talking about months old tests… how many people (men or women) have they been with since the clean test result? That’s not ever mentioned in our experience…
If you test on a Monday, then play with someone infected (and get what they’ve got) on a Wednesday, then get a clean result on Friday, you still have a clean result even though you’re infected.
We test for our own peace of mind. Never to show others as proof… we will always only ever trust ourselves with our sexual safety, and take the risks WE can control… those risks are never at zero in this LS, and we recognize that. Oral sex has its own risks as well… Weighing risk and reward is part of it. However, leaving our sexual health in others’ hands is something we just can’t do. We don’t trust you other naughty fucking people that much 😂
So condoms always for us.
To each their own.
Casual sex - Seems like good news to us. - We've found that its much easier in California to just "hook up" because most of the clubs who cater to swingers have rooms, beds, pools and jacuzzi inside their premises and you bring your own drinks. Most of the times there is food and a bar to serve the drinks you bring so its all there and all you have to do is show up and dance, get naked and have sexy fun (not in that order).
YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - Any other cpls going on the cruise from Jax, orlando area and Tampa?
The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.
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