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The lifestyle: A single mans perspective - - Well said, brother...This lifestyle is what you make of it, and some make more than others. While we are all grownups on this site (obviously, you have to be 18 or over to sign on), you'd think there would be less of a high-school mentatlity than in, say....high school? yet, we get some of the DORKIEST , misspelled emails I've ever seen. Couple that with the responses we've gotten to some posts (like the one critisizing us for getting our vip status), and we wonder how some have remembered to breathe long enough to pass high school. So, here are some very basic tips on enjoying this lifestyle: (not that I'm an expert, but obviously some need etiquette lessons) 1) The first email / chat with someone, DON"T ask idiotic questions. And don't get TOO personal. Remember, this is like dating. If a woman at a bar showed some interest, would the next thing out of your mouth be 'What size is your bra?', or 'Do you like it in the ass?'. it's no wonder some of you are in this lifestyle, you'd never get laid otherwise. 2) Keep SOCIAL meetings SOCIAL. No one cares how long you've been a proctologist, or how much money your kids have stole from you. That's YOUR business. Polite conversation is one thing, but there's nothing worse than hearing a 3 hour lecture on YOUR life experiences, followed by 'So, would you guys like to play with us?' Yeah, as if 3) There ARE other things besides sex to chat about. In person or on the computer. That's right, SWINGERS HAVE BRAINS. and we're very able to carry on converstaion (well, some of us anyway) We were at a party once, and my other half said 'I've heard sex mentioned until I'm not turned on at the thought anymore' ...it happens, just a tip 4) Unless you're planning a very long trip, or own your own private jet, don't add someone to your friend's list here OR on yahoo that lives 3,000 miles away. Let's face it, we'll never meet. Hell, we'll probably never even talk. so what's the point? Air sex? gimme a break. 5) And probably the most important. From the first meeting, to every visit you have (if someone's lucky enough to invite you back, RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE!. Just because we have a wild orgy at the pool of a local motel with wild monkeys and lots of cool whip, it DOES NOT MEAN TO GROPE US EVERYTIME YOU SEE US. We're in couples for a reason, to be in a couple. And just because we're turned on by you, or have sex, doesn't mean you own our bodies afterward. That's what your spouse/gf/bf is for. And most of us aren't here for love. NEWSFLASH...WE'RE HERE FOR SEX! These are just off the top of my head, after recieving some horrible emails, and experiencing some terrible meetings. Oh, yeah, and in response to the post, most single guys DO get a hard time in the lifestyle. But good, they should. This is about the couples, single guys are VERY easy to come by. And those who have treated us with RESPECT have been treated EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. Bravo on a great post, and good luck to you sir! Him p.s. anything I missed? list it below!

Is this one of your rules? What is it? is it fear? or something - Does everyone feel this way? -

KYM-N-TIM,

You are very bold to think you alone define swinging and what the site is. This site is a place for swingers to meet on whatever level they choose. Finding people to have sex with is one of the goals, yes. Though sex will no always happen in all meetings. One of the benefits of a meeting that doesn't "click" sexually, is friendship. So, never think you can define swinging for everyone. It's different for all of us. Libertines are free of the confines of moralism, dogma or ethics. There is no definition to this. To define it, is to cheapen it. Sex does not have to result from you encounters with people. It is a benefit of a chance meeting with a couple you and your partner (if that applies), have a sexual attraction to. You and I both know that that is not always the case. We find that making friends first, gives us our desired result.


-Don-

Thank you Lifestyle. - A commentary about our journey - Thanksgiving just passed us by and Xmas and the New Year are quickly approaching. I thought I would take a long moment of my time, and your time if you are reading this, to tell this massive entity, called the "Lifestyle" how it has changed me this year. We have been in the Lifestyle for a little over a year and a half. We don't even like the name lifestyle. We prefer "kinky" or "adventurous" or even just "fun as hell", but it seems the term will be around for awhile longer. The wife and I often ponder what exactly the Lifestyle is. Is it a certain set of rules and guidelines that we all live in? Is it the same for us as it is for everyone else? How often does it hurt marriage or relationships and how often does it help? Do we regret our decision to enter into it? When we first tip-toed into the waters we were intimidated, in awe and totally unprepared for what we would experience. It all seemed magical and sometimes scary. We have and had a great marriage and thought we wanted a new, kinky adventure together. We planned to go slow and we would be fine, we were certain. But we were nervous. We were so sloshed at our first Sinful party that we irritated a few people there, no doubt, and probably made asses of ourselves. We still do that sometimes, but now we do it conscientiously. But we grew and learned quickly and have morphed into what we are today (huge asses). Interestingly enough, a few years before we entered the LS, we thought swingers were all gross, dirty, sexually infected people ( I am still not ruling some of you out). We had met a couple that harassed us at every opportunity and were the "creepy" type. Now we know people may think of us the same way if they found out, which is sad, because we like to be honest and open with all of our friends. So, like many of you, it is a secret we keep. It is a trade off for doing what we do. So what have I learned? How have I changed? I have always been a non-judgmental person by most standards, but still I had strong opinions about certain things. One spouse, one partner; that is how it should be done. So what changed? First off, our communication started to blossom about all sorts of things once my wife left her religion. I won't mention names, but it begins with an L and ends in DS. We talked and talked and talked and the more we talked the more we realized that we both had kinky minds and that maybe we should "experiment". So, we made some rules, actually a LOT of rules, and entered the ring. Still thinking one spouse, one partner, but maybe, just maybe we could play in the same room as other people. How kinky is that? Hence our name...sameroomonly. Well, as some of you know, the lifestyle is a monstrous, living, breathing beast and can quickly drag you to places you never thought possible. We made some mistakes, had some great times and just fumbled our way through for a few months trying to figure out where our lines were and what we should or shouldn't do. Then we got smart. We learned to communicate again, like we used to do privately, only now we could do it with other people around. And it was refreshing. No more secret code words (well, sometimes) and no more wondering if what one of us was doing was not condoned by the other. So that is the first thing I think the LS has helped us with. Communication. We communicate like mother fuckers. Better than all of our non-lifestyle friends, for the most part. Are we always amazing and never have bumps? Of course not. Anyone who says they never have drama are either liars or delusional. So thank you lifestyle for our ability to exchange ideas and to be more honest with each other, always. The next thing we found was that we were making friends at a very fast pace. We made a kik group and had our first party with about 40 people up in Park City only 5 or so months after joining the website. It was a blast. We still host parties and invite new people all the time. We enjoy introducing new friends with old friends. Wait, did I say friends or fuck buddies? Don't we sleep with all of our friends? Isn't that the expectation? Not for us. We have made friends that we know will be around until we are all old and gray. We have lost friends because we wouldn't fuck. There are whole discussions on these forums about how some just want to meet and fuck, because this is a swinging site, not a friend site. And to each their own. We don't judge, but for us the rewards of our friendships have far outweighed the 10 or 20 seconds of amazing sex. We have friends around the world that we never would have met without the LS. So to the lifestyle, I say thank you for all of the wonderful friends we have made. Love you all, some more than others ( you know who I am talking about). :) The LS has also taught me to be less judgmental and to avoid using words like "never" or "always". Life is full of gray areas and has lost much of its black and white features. Oh sure, I still judge, have preferences and prejudices, but we all do. I just really believe in walking in another's shoes before I make any decisions about someone's life. So lifestyle, thank you for making me more understanding of other people. Last of all, I just want to say that the sexual journey has been amazing. We have shared many hot, sexy and intimate times with some of you and we have come to realize how similar we all are. We all like sex, we all have a kinky side, or else we wouldn't be here. I have done things that I never imagined would ever happen, with some of the sexiest, most beautiful people I have ever met. I have shared intimate moments with people I care deeply about and others that were just passing through. All have their high points. I have experienced more than most people would even dream about, as have most of you. We are the select who choose to follow our dreams and fantasies. I think we are fortunate. So lifestyle, thank you for all the amazing sex. In the end the lifestyle is different for everyone. It is a whole sub universe in the middle of a "normal" society. Sometimes we have to walk among the shadows to keep our secret, but totally worth it. I would never trade the LS for my wonderful marriage and think I am the luckiest man alive to be married to my beautiful, amazing wife who has shared this journey with me. Love you, Babe. As with everything in life, there will be people who read this and like it, some who don't care and some who disagree or will want to pick it to pieces. That is what makes this amazing. There are so many wonderful, different people and the lifestyle is a perfect diving board to jump into the sea of waiting bodies and personalities. So if you are new, jump in, explore and learn. If you are old school, help others to weather the bumps and keep exploring. Long live the lifestyle. That is a little about my journey, how about you? I encourage anyone to add what they think or feel the LS has done for them, even negative things. Merry xmas to everyone and hope to meet some of you new people. And to my friends, I care about each and every one of you. The Mr.

Northern Utah Party ... Damn It! - We WILL hunt you down ... - SWINGERS??? Oh shit!!! I thought we were just trying an "alternative lifestyle". Hmmmm last time I jumped from a SWING...it hurt like hell!!! But the last time I just slid nice & easy into open arms...it was a good landing!

Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - [quote=LAPUA]That's the way it's been for us too. Have given our phone # to a few couples that have said they really want to meet. Haven't heard for them yet but tell ya the couples we have met have been great there's been very few. Still looking for them repeat couples and the one's that are looking for fun in and out of the bedroom. Where the hell are they????[/quote]

Tampa area Swingers gulf Cruises - - Clothing Optional Lifetsyle friendly Cruises Prepare yourself fo the time of your life aboard an intermidiate cruising vessel. Clothing is optional and public lifestyle displays are encouraged!!! This is the ultimate swingers party for both couples and singles. We have 2 different cruise options in terms of length. First we have our most common 3day 2 night cruise. This cruise is open to singles and couples, although single men will be limited to 6. Each cruise can accomodate up to 28 people. Itinerary Day 1 Arrive at the port in St Petersburg and Board the Boat at 11:30am We will disembark at 12:30pm and head out to the gulf. Enjoy a light lunch while we make our way out to sea. Once we are 35 miles off shore, clothing becomes optional. Enjoy socializing, sunbathing, or even becoming playful!!! At 5pm we will arrive at our point of anchor and stop for the evening. Enjoy a heartiful dinner under the Gulf Skies. After dinner, it is time for more socializing, drinking, dancing and whatever else you fancy. Remember, this is a swingers cruise, so feel free to enjoy yourself wherever and however you please. Day 2 Out at sea We stay anbchored for the entire second day. Greta time to get some rays, swim, have fun, or just relax and recover from the first night. After all the second night is still coming!!! Breakfast, lunch and dinner will be served along with snacks all day long. Day 3 We will pull up anchor and start heading back at noon. This will give you about 4 more hours of uninhibited onboard freedom. We will dock back in St. Petersburg at approximately 5:30pm. Breakfast and lunch will be served. Our other package is exactly the same as above, except it is 4 days and 3 nights. We do have a single Guy package as well. They disembark 3 times a year and sell out fast. Our next single guy cruise is going to be on Febuary 18,2005. Single cruises allow for 15 single men to be a board. The rest of the guests are couples looking for that special guy to share intimate times with and single women. These too our oriented towards the swingers lifestyle. The singles cruise is 3 days and 2 nights. Prices: 3day/2night Single Laides- $125.00 Couples- $525.00 Single men- $850.00 4day/3night Single ladies- $200.00 Couples- $700.00 Single men- $925.00 Single male cruise- Single ladies- $100.00 Couples- $575.00 Single men- $880.00 All cruises are all inclusive. We have 3 meals a day and snacks throught the entire cruise. Alcohol is also provided, as well. The below are scheduled dates for our 2005 cruises. These sell out fast, so book now!!! (3/2 is the 3 day, 2 night, 4/3 is the 4 day, 3 night and SM is the single male cruise) 3/2 (departs 3 weeks in a row, then takes a week off) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 4/2 (departs once a month) Febuary 4, 2005 March 4, 2005 SM (Departs the same days as the 3/2) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 We have 3 boats in total to use for our weekly and monthly cruises. If you wish to charter a boat for private parties, please let us know. We will also be planning week long cruises to jamaica, bahamas, and mexico. All of these cruises will have land stays at lifestyle friendly resorts. Remember, we sail every friday. You can book up to 6 months in advance, and we do have payment plans avaiable. To reserve your space, we require a 25% deposit, the balance has to be paid in full one week prior to your cruise date. Single guys!!! Dont want to go as a single? we have several single ladies that have asked us to partner them up with a guy for the dcruises. Once you book your cruise, we will give you the contact info for each lady, so you can meet and hopefully find that perfect companion. These girls are real swingers, not escorts looking for someone to share their time with, after all, what fun would a swingers cruise be all alone. We do have single ladies looking for couples and other ladies, as well. You cannot beat these prices anywhere!!! Contact us now with your questions and to make your reservations now. We do give group discount rates if your group is larger than 10 people, ask us about it. Along with the cruise packages we offer, we will also be planning a land trip to Hedonism III in may, please email us to be added to the interest list for this vacation, as we will be sending the info out in the next week.

Are you more or less tolerant? - - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]We think that in regards to your own appearance that you just cannot take the negativity that will be thrown your way too seriously. When we first formed this profile there was a group that threw parties that had a strict "undressed code" as to how you should look naked. A lot of people understandably got offended and there was a lot of banter and unfriendliness in the forums. We actually got several invitations, from some members of that group to join. We declined the invitations but we were surprised we were invited. For all the banter back and forth we would not have been welcome due to our age and or some sort of flaw in the body. Perhaps the exclusivity was the sell point and the members were more average than you would expect. Not that there is anything wrong with average. What the hell is average appearance anyway? Acceptance meant you were a notch above the rest in the eyes of the members as in the only true swingers. Does feeling sexy about yourself have to come at the expense of others? I do not know if that group still exist anymore. The founder fell in love and went monogamous last I knew. Well about that same time we submitted application as it were to join an older longer established group that puts together parties because we thought the parties looked like fun. About 60 days after our submission to join the group was sent we got back an e-mail declining our participation. We could get upset and lose time and joy wondering if we just were not sexy enough to be considered among the elite or we could just move on and know we were still going to find new and exciting people and adventures anyway. The real reasons for denial are only found within the person or persons that said no and if they have their reasons those same reasons do not make them bad people. I like to think that way at least. Mrs. Delicious just told me, as she was walking out the door to an appointment, that if they don't like her there must be something wrong with them. We can imagine until the cows come home and we will probably never guess right and it really does not matter anyway. I like to think the group, that told us no, is fun and is having fun but will just not know us. You cannot be part of everything anyway. The tendency for us to imagine that any group that might reject us is full of miserable losers that would not know sexy if it bit them is not good for us and the no was probably delivered with a lot less intolerance than we are imagining. I think we should concentrate on discovering more joy by fully focusing on the doors that are open to us. We are all going to get rejected from time to time and it might hurt but don't dwell on it. Opportunities to connect and to live and love surround us all. [/quote] Well written my friend and as a single male in this lifestyle this is something that needs to be preached and practiced

Finding Connections - Do the majority of swingers wait to be approached? - For context, I'm the male of the couple and have been on a single male profile for most of my time on this site. I don't think I've ever actually met anyone for the first time from this website. I send out the occasional email, and I get approached every once in a while, but nothing ever happens. For me, this was a place to stay connected with the people that I met in person, at parties and events and things like that. It has been a much more effective tool for that than for meeting people. But like I said, I was a single male profile for a very long time. Now that we're on an account together, we might have more luck meeting other couples on here. We'll have to wait and see. As for being approached... it varies. If it's someone I'm not interested in, I do usually try to reply and let them know that it's not going to work for whatever reason. I don't do that as often for single males, because I've had some bad experiences with them harassing me afterwards, but for couples I personally try to reply. Not everybody does, and I imagine that for some people who get lots of requests it would become time-consuming to reply to everyone.

"Swinger Robots"?? - WtF?, Now, on top of everything else, we have to worry about Robot Swingers? - [quote=SHENANIGANIZER]Tmaca, love the quote![/quote] D'ya grok who said it?

Button Up Tonight - - Is buttons up still open? Especially to the swingers? I haven't been there, we are looking for a fun place to go.