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tired of the B>S> - - u know, i don't think we're validated or certified or whatever they call it here on this site. we've been on so many it's hard to keep track. anyway, we're very real and we just don't give a hoot about validations anymore. i guess u could say we've progressed thru maslow's hierarchy of needs for swingers to the self-actualized phase. that's a clever way of saying we no longer give a rat's ass what other people think. ;)
we've been swingers since 2003, and we really only went to a lot of parties and sought out new experiences with regularity for the first 2 years. now it's just another "thang" we dabble in from time to time when the mood hits us...mostly on vacation, weekend getaways, and stuff like that.
and we really have no ego stake in how many unsolicited emails we do or don't get from people asking us to hook up or inviting us to parties. if we get the itch, we'll look around, find something that piques our curiosity, and send them a message.
it's all really no big deal. and we have found that folks who get wrapped around the axle about this stuff are not the kind of folks we want to hang out with anyway.
KISSING YES OR NO? - PEOPLE THAT WON'T KISS - [quote=EVILDOERS]I got this one. What most people don't know is that the VAST majority of swingers (yes, men too) used to be prostitutes before they went WAY off the deep end and became swingers. And everybody knows that prostitutes, by law, are not allowed to kiss on the mouth. If you have any further questions please rewatch Pretty Woman. You're welcome.
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Good one, Touché
An out of this world (or state) encounter - swinging parties - I love you ABC Women you described utah parties very well. You are AWESOME!!!
We have had soooo much fun and we are non drama people. However most parties have one or two that make it not as fun but you chose to respond how you want. Looks do not matter as much to us. We just like having a good time. That is what I hope everyone is trying to do. We enjoy all the parties soooo far keep them coming!!! goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo swingers!!!!
Oh for fuck's sake! - Really? - It's not enough that gonorrhea and syphilis is making a 'cum'back? Now we've got a NEW STI to worry about? Take me now, Jeebus! [em]Emo_79[/em]
[url=http://www.fox4news.com/news/83981891-story]New sexually transmitted disease scares the actual fuck out of Utah swingers and other perverts :-p[/url]
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - I think there are a number of definitions of "moral".
I've always tried to live a good clean, law-abiding life - one guided by the Golden Rule.
I've never stolen from anyone, I've never killed anyone, and I've never knowingly done anything to hurt anyone.
As it applies to the Swinging Lifestyle, let me put it this way:
I may "fuck" your wife - but I'd never "fuck" you.
So tell me, does that make me moral or immoral?
seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - Have your back on that response THOUGHTGARDEN!
K&N
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We would be very interested in this. let us know if anyone is interested with us
corvette - any one up for a group ride - [quote=KRAZYGIRL]Its not a Bow Tie but would love a reason to get these two sexy girls out and enjoy them.
Let us know[em]Emo_85[/em] [/quote]
Definitely doesn't have to be a bow tie. We have one of each in the garage, Dodge, Ford, & Chevy. Your Mustang is nice(so is the wife). Maybe we all should start a swingers car club. Haha
A paradigm shift - polyamory - Your thoughts? Here are mine... - Hitting the topic of Poly.... I am poly my wife is not. We swing. I have a lady friend, spice if you will who is also married and her husband is not poly and they do not swing. We, all 4 of us are fast friends and both my wife and her husband have no problem with her's and my arrangement. THey also know that We swing. Now how did that person come into our life.. we met and became friends almost immediatly. I fell in love with her but am sill "IN love with my wife as well. I< we, like to become friends with people before we jump into the sack with them... BTW they both know that we swing. Could I fall in love with another woman, definitely.. Could I fall for a woman who we might swing with....I could and have. No biggy...If she is not into that I understand... Not everyone can handle the situation
Some one mentioned that jealousy are natural.... Only in the sense that by example we are programmed to them, just as we are not "taught " not to eat other people but we kind of get that impression...Canibalism(sp) is not acceptable any more than is marrying ones own sister or brother. Possessiveness is about owning somthing that is not yours to own. No one owns anyone else and especially not their spouse. Is it natural to own a person? I say no. Somehow when people get into a relationship the idea creeps in that says that the other person is your exclusive property. One need to put that aside if one is a swinger. As for jealousy.... Jealousy is a combination of both possessiveness and ones own insadequacies. Maybe one could describe that as fear.. Fear that she or he will meet someone better. Fear that we are not good enough, etc etc etc. So Jealousy is a reaction to these fears and the possessiveness not a true emotion at all. Everyone thinks of Jealousy as an emotion, which it is not.
So polyamory is very possibly with swinging but may purists of poly will say that poly and swinging are difinitely two different things... Maybe but they can exist simultaneously.
Just a note; More than 60% and I've seen figures up to 77% of all married couples, and I'm sure that it extends to LTR's as well...maybe even swingers, are at some time in their life engaged in serial monogamy..; i.e., either cheating or getting ready for the split-up. Isn't this a simpler form of or something like poly? ... THink about that....
Swinging/Polyamory - I just wanted to hear other people thoughs on this....... - Much of what has been said I agree with, but I do know poly couples in the lifestyle. Their swinging is a bit more complicated as far as the decision process because I would imagine that such a decision would need to be agreed upon by all partners involved.
The biggest difference I think between regular swingers and those who are involved in poly relationships is while most people who swing would shun the development of emotional ties to other swingers thinking it would be the doom of their spousal (primary) relationship, those who are also involved in or those who are open to the possibility of poly relationships would welcome the development of additional relationships for what they are knowing there is neither a need to replace their spouse or run off with the person they have formed this new relationship with. It does add further complication to their life, but it can also enrich it tremendously.
My .02 from an observers standpoint.
-SG
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