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Too old ???? - - I am calling it the way we have seen it. We both started playing around in lifestyles just under 40 years ago. The computer and internet wasn't that big a help, you had to find people at bars and clubs and places couples were known to hang out. You really walked gently then but word didn't travel as fast so you could maintain anonymity much easier. With chat rooms on the net and websites just for lifestyles, it became easier to meet people but also required more caution. We had a blast meeting couples, making friends and exploring all kinds of lifestyle activities. Cyn was a doll and always being chased. I guess I wasn't too bad either since I was never left out. Under 10 years ago we took a break. During that time most of our favorite clubs went away, the news media made big issues about swingers, alot of our friends moved, died or divorced. We decided to try getting back in because we missed the friendships with a more open feeling, not necessarily the sex. We came back in our early 60's, just a few years ago. We changed physically, gained a little weight, went grey, lost some hair... most of the things that happen about now. We posted some nice current pics, updated our profile honestly and waited. A few nice gentlemen responded to Cyn, but even then, it was lean pickings. My opinion is that we are all selfish animals, including Cyn and I. There is nothing more exciting than a hot, tight young body. The physical attraction fades as we wrinkle, expand and change. Finding other couples becomes difficult and very selective. Putting up those bigger numbers on our age does not help. Posting honest pics is a double-edged sword. While it's good to be honest it also deters people away. We have found meeting people whenever possible makes the best connection, the way it was in the beginning. When you let people meet you, learn what they are really like and they see what you really are, the relationship seems to solidify quicker and without having to fake it in any way. Its hard, miserable and frustrating after all the fun we had in younger years, but our bodies aged, not our minds.
Good luck.. a good friendship is worth the effort.
Spanish Fork to American Fork - Utah - [quote=JoeThe1Mac]I have been on this site for 8 months. Reached out to couples that advertised for SM. I have run ad"s in the hookup section. What I have found in the state of Utah is for couples and most women is WOMF. Not that this disappoints me, it just the double standard. Heck AFF picked up all of the Craigslist picture collectors. But I believe to each there own. 😘[/quote]
WOMF?!!?
[url=https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=WOMF]WOMF Urban Dictionary[/url]
But that's why I suggested possibly exploring sites like FetLife and others where there is a large, active cuck community looking for what you seem to be seeking. I'm fairly certain that the number of mainstream swingers who are looking for a cuck-type situation is really quite small. And I really don't think that's specific to Utah. But no matter where you look to find people who are into cuckolding you must know that the odds are against you because there are SO very many single males who are seeking ANY kind of no-strings sex whether it's cuckoldry or not.
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - oh yeah!....love DP
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I'll bet Don Wan spit at the Vietnam vets too. What a looser. Thank God for the brave military men and women. Let's remeber the ones who died for all of us (even Don Wan) this Memorial Day Weekend.
Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I thought it was a pineapple upside down in your cart. I do it once in a while to see if I get a reaction from anyone.
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - I have attended lifestyle clubs in Vegas and Phoenix Arizona. Red Rooster once had trouble with the law over the building permits. The city made it tough on them but Mike and Chris got through the permit recertification. They also were able to prove that they accepted Donations at the door not a fee. And did offer food and had no serving Alcohol of their control. It was BYOA.
In Phoenix Guys and Dolls kept the police out of their hair by creating a compound for vehicles. When the cops were there the gates would close and search warrents were needed. Thus just cause was a requirement. Also asked for Donations, had food serving.
I recommend if you plan to start a club. Go to other cities and with contact to the establishment to talk to their attorney ask for help in educating how their system works. That would go a long way. Choose a good industrial area to organize and set up operations. Maybe a closed hotel could be the location, like Edgewater West in Oakland California.
Wish you luck.
Are we really as judgmental as vanilla people? - - [quote=THOUGHTGARDEN]Are some people perhaps confusing "judgemental" with "selective"?[/quote]
Right - some people seem to think that because we are swingers we have sex with anyone and therefore they view a rejection as a personal snub. I think they forget that "just not that into you" applies as much in swinging as vanilla relationships.
Salt Lake and surrounding area couples for couples - Looking to meet other swingers - You sound like a couple my gf and I would like to get to know. My kik is sirlixalot65 hers damngina71.
International Swingers Day - How are you celebrating? - My reply was in regards to Whiskey girls comment
Any swingers advise for Spain? - Swing clubs in Madrid - We will be in Madrid, Spain and Marrakech, Morocco for 2 weeks starting 12/3, we know Morocco is dead but wondered if anyone who's been to Madrid could point us in the right direction? We speak Spanish, so language not a barrier.
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