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Mormons - - What a interesting topic, I have to put in my two cents. I am from Amesfoort, Holland. I moved to Utah when I was young and grew up in SLC in the winter, returning to Holland some summers. (A unique perspective) Now with my wife, I have not meet any LDS swingers. But our circle of friends is not LDS ether. But while I was single I meet many Mormon girls that a great interest in me. Some tried to convert me (HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... no) and some had no intention of converting me, although may have used it as an excuse to talk to me. There are many benifiets for staying in the church, and growing up non-lds can be a lonely affair in Utah. I think that many pretend to believe, because they need the support of the community, friends, and family. But many do want they want behind closed door. And I am sure the Internet is a great escape for them as well. I have been far and wide in this world, and most people are all the same. Yeah they may not be that open but everyone has to get to their own freedom in their own way and own time. So many of them just chat, and disappear when it comes down to meeting. But in my single days I had girls from the church meet me in private, and well. :) I used to like to think that is was because I was a hottie. but I think I have come to realize it was them who was hot, and needed release, and trusted me to be quiet about it. I am sure many think about swinging. But I doubt many would even talk to their spouse about that. The one issue I have with the Church is that they tend to control through fear, and I bet many guys and girls would like to bring up the topic. But fear their spouse will freak and they will be in front of the bishop. Most be a scary place to be, I am very lucky to have been raised in a very liberal, open, agnostic home. That upbringing seems to leave so many insecurity's, and doubts about ones self. anyway sorry to be long winded.

Comfort level of casual vs relationships? - - We are still fairly new to this whole lifestyle shindig; just under a year. Trying to figure what aspects we like, don’t like and are just meh. I’m curious though, when it comes to forming emotional connections with other people how open are you to the idea? If it’s a scale of 1 - 10. One being completely casual, “what was your name again” sex and two being “I deeply love you and want you to come live with me and my other two wives” sort of deal... where do you fall? ::: For us we are discovering that we prefer the more connective experiences and don’t shy away from words like “love” or “relationship”. But we also love just super casual fun experiences. All of it entirely contingent on the people involved. So not quite true swingers but also not quite true poly. Trying to see how common or uncommon that is.

Habits: Vanilla or Not? - How to tell the difference? - [quote=DANDDMONTREAL]We went to Habits last night because multiple people have mentioned that it's a place that Utah lifestylers like to frequent. As we expected, it was generally difficult to tell the difference between lifestylers and vanillas (though we did recognize a few people from various events). We have no interest in offending a vanilla by making undesired advances. Nor are we looking to flip vanillas. That's just not our thing. We're really only interested in meeting stable couples that have experience in the lifestyle. So the obvious question is, what tricks do people have for differentiating lifestylers from vanillas at Habits?[/quote] This has been asked here many times before... here's what it boiled down to: 1) You can't tell by looking. 2) If you really want to know, you'll have to ask them. 3) Despite the fact that maybe 5% to 10% of the people there are swingers on any given weekend, it's not a swinger club, so if you're trying to meet swingers, it's very inefficient. Sorry.. wish there was a better answer.

What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - [quote=T4REAL69][quote][quote=HCOUPLE6988]ok so what would you classify someone who was considered a swinger by some for 10 years but now that im single does that revoke my swingers card because i am no longer married?....just trying to figure out where all of us that fit into this category falls into for all of you that choose to define someone[/quote] Oh man that's easy you are now all that is wrong and evil in the world....I thought you knew....lmao...welcome to the "DARKSIDE" ;)[/quote][/quote] FUCK..... o well I guess I'll try and have as much fun as possible on the darkside now i just need to find a storm trooper outfit so i can fit in :)

Preferences? - - Posted By: BEANYKATT Reply posted on: Jan 27, 2008 - 1:02 pm AHHH.NO! DON that is not what I am refering to..anyone who thinks eating Human or any other bodily waste IS EROTIC is very MUCH DISTURBED. I think there are ALOT of SO-called SWINGERS who are nothing more than self centered people. As for me I am an equal oppurtunity swinger.. TO exclude anyone..just becaue your dick dosent get hard at the site of them is purely ludicrous.. because that is the whole basis of marriage to be married to that ONE person that DOES everthing for you..so why would you Wife-Swap..Swing or participate in ANY extra marital activities?At one time or another EVERYONE thinks about someone or something else besides their own mate.. NOW that dosent mean that you love or desire your mate ANY LESS..We all have little nuances that our mates dont have.. so just to say that I HAVE to be attracted to someone JUST to have sex ... I dont know sounds sort of suspect to me of something else involved . ============================================================== You know, there are those that think that anyone watching someone fucking his wife's lights out and thinking it IS EROTIC is very MUCH DISTURBED too. We live in a self centered world. We do this to avoid that because we find it undesirable or to get that because it is desirable TO US. Good for you. IF my dick can't get hard with this person, what do you want me to do? Take one for the cause of being equal opportunity? I might take one for the team but to have me take one for a cause is kinda difficult, don't you think? I don't follow. Haven't you answered your own question? OK. That is fine. Maybe I have an average dick and she might want a change of pace with a guy with a thick dick once in a while or maybe she wants a change of guy. What do you want me to do about that? Grow a couple inches of girth or be schizophrenic for a bit? What??? Even Cialis cannot get you hard if you are not attracted to that person. What do you expect? The person looks better as you drink more?? Like what else involved are you refering to?

Why do husbands always answer first? - - [quote=HFUN]Sexy latin you are not perfect by anymeans .we have chatted with you and you did not mind it when i was chatting with you untill you could not get your way.we could not change the date that you set up and you got mad at us for not being able to change it. And i was totally nice not pushy at all very respectful even tho we felt uneasy about meeting somone your age and even said something but you are persistant. And what did you expect your a single woman on a swinger site .. Besides the definiton of swingers is a couple swapping partners . so its not a single dateing site . altho singles are welcome to it.. So why are you here in this lifestyle sexy latin ? I just had to put my two cents in .This is The male half not the wifes view.[/quote] I don't think this answers her question or is helpful in any way. Doesn't seem like it's your place to attack or question the motive of any single for being on this site because each of us has our reason. Obviously you didn't mind when you were trying to set up a date with her. And we aren't aware of what happened in a closed messaging session between the two of you, but it seems that airing it in the open like this is an ugly way to settle it. May cause others to avoid you for such a visceral response from her seemingly harmless question. Again, I don't know what happened between the two of you, but this isn't the best place for you to show this angry side of you. To SexyLatin, I'm contacted more often by men, of course, but it's often hard to know who is talking when a couple. I think we always assume it's the man when it could be the woman. From the comments above, it seems that there are women who do the contacting, also, but you may think it's the man.

Translating Personals/Swingers Ads - - NWBICPL: Yeah, but at least you can laugh at it. We have to admit, we have had some good laughs over the difference between the profile and who shows up at the meet and greet. You HAVE to just chuckle! Often, it's okay anyway, after you get past the "false advertisement" part. I'm not sure which description applies to "these are our high school graduation pics" but we're sure there is one!

Question about Friend Requests? - - First -- Bracelets! We so need one! Second -- I believe if you have no face pics, you either think it would be embarrassing for you to have someone see you on here but BLUEEYESINUTAH put it best, why are you worried, they are swingers too, or you feel that your life may be to public for a picture, then if that is so you must have met some bad people who would use that to their advantage and for that I am sorry. The corner stone of the swinger lifestyle is discretion, if I ran into you in public I may say hi or just keep walking. I have made some great friends here and even had a few of them come to my non-lifestyle events. I have ran across people I know from work/school/family friends here and I just pass up their profile, really we are all adults and I know I won't even email you without a face pic, or if you email me I usually won't respond. To each their own, but put on your big girl panties, we are all adults. [quote=BLUEEYESINUTAH][quote=HFUN] Altho I find it ironic you call it being shallow for not giving those with face pics accessible a chance in the same breath that you boast that you are "high profile". Really? I mean, I can understand using discretion and not yelling "yo, great party! Your pussy rocked last night!" in the middle of the grocery store should we happen to run into you, but lets not overthink it. I don't care if you are a janitor, the govenor, or a celebrity...you still fuck and you still take your clothes off the same way I do. Trust me...nobody is gonna string you up or put you on trial for being a swinger. We may blush as we walk past you and smile warmly at the nice memory, but the neon swinger sign over your head is in only in your imagination. Personally I would love one. Hot pink preferably. Oh wait. That's why we have the bracelets. [/quote]

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - I know why they are scared. Mormons figure if you can get talked into being mormon, you can be talking into just about anything.. old joke, but it works! ;-)

Does this happen to any other women? - General Discussion - This is sort of a venting as well as a general question. A bit personal, I know...however judging by other forums, I think it will be acceptable. I just want to know how other swingers perceive it and/or deal with it. For some strange reason it seems that whenever we make plans to go out to a swinger's club for a special party, or a really good swinger's house party...Aunt Flo shows up uninvited. I have had her show up FIVE days early and/or three or four days late just to ruin a potential good time. I don't know if it's because I'm worried about her coming subconsciously or it's just bad luck but it's quite frustrating :( Please tell me that others out there have this same experience as often as I do and that I'm not alone. Now I don't know about others in the lifestyle, but I have had many discussions with male friends and boyfriends in my life who won't come near a woman on their dot, they are repulsed by it. This way of thinking passed on to me so I wouldn't even consider trying to initiate anything sexual until Auntie packed her bags and left for the remainder of the month. I find myself very lucky to be with a man who doesn't mind it because it's "natural for a woman" and he has taught me to become quite comfortable with sexy time with him while Auntie is visiting. This is great because I tend to get quite aroused when Auntie is visiting. We were discussing it the other day and he mentioned that there are bound to be other swingers out there that don't mind playing with a woman on her dot. I wonder how true that is so I figured I would put it out there for everyone else to respond.