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Swingers Kickball Society - - Oh my god yes! I love kicking balls!
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - Maybe in our wildest fantasy. [em]Emo_4[/em]
Invatation to swingers. - open letter against Dr. Phil - I agree! Dr. Laura's nude pics didn't really do it for me either!Once again I say, BOYCOT! Money gives people like that a voice.
Some Food For Thought - - #1. if this is a one time or even a few times thing, then no. if after words you feel it is not for you, then again no. however you decided to add it even on a nonregular basis, or seek it out then yes you have crossed that line.
#2. same goes to men
#3. after you have done it a few times and seem to enjoy it then that is the line ive been blown by a few guys and didnt enjoy it as with a lady.
#4. as the judge once said I cant define it but i know it when i see it. what a crock. the difference is how willing you are to accept it for instance woman on woman love during victorian era was preverted and punishable by law. now its kinky. there are a few i hope never become kinky like child porn and beastialty.
#5. depends on level of involment and acceptance. some people it is perverted and some it is kinky. if it happens dont ruin the fun just go. if you didnt like it take precausion it dont happen again
#6. if you are in a realationship that is open to the fullist extent of the word, i feel if your other half doesnt know you are cheating. even if you tell them later they should know before hand.
#7. if your other knew then no but they might be cheating. so why turn something fun and good into something ugly.
#8. from the way people reacted with the city weekly not many.
#9. most swingers love their partners so they make sure they are clean. while cheaters dont care. so std with in the circle i dont worry about
#10. if god didnt want us to do it then it would not feel so damn good. and remember i live in utah
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Kitty, they go best with a light honey BBQ sauce :)
Seriously, we live with only one ethical standard: Do not harm others unnecessarily. Simple and to the point.
As to the difference between morals and ethics; I have always believed that morals are those things society pushes on you, be it your church, the law, family, ect, while ethics are those things you take for yourself and make a part of your own beliefs and actions.
Do I view myself as moral? Not really. I have consciously chosen to ignore those things which society has attempted to push on me in favor of what I believe to be right and wrong. I obey laws I don't agree with not because I believe those laws to be moral, or myself to be moral, but because I do not wish the repercussions of breaking those laws. That and I live in serious red-neck country and our prostitutes are just downright scary .
Help us out.. Take this Survey - For Utah Swingers - Not done. God I hate multiple choice tests. Is there a time limit? [em]Emo_8[/em]
(pssst! what did you all get for question number seven?)
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - you should not avoid the clubs but the idiots there instead.we went to halloween party and an idiot grabbed my wife's ass i told him if he did it again i would throw him off the stairs and we were down stairs.having gotten his attention i then explained proper etiquette at a swing club some people just think that every one is there for their enjoyment because they paid to get in
Phil
Explain why you like being a swinger - - [quote=JANDY275]We don't like being swingers....we are really kleptomaniacs. But what better way to see what kind of cool things other people have. :)[/quote]
and you could potentially add "spouses" to the list of things you theive? :p
can we swing and still not be in sin ? - - For what it's worth here is my 2 cents on the subject.
I agree with Don on what he said earlier in this thread. The entire concept of sin was created by the religious leaders as a form of control. Every organized religion serves 3 primary purposes; 1) to explain the why's and how's of creation, 2) to give a foundation of how to live, 3) to give comfort about death. From the beginning of time religious leaders have used the power of religion as a means of controlling the masses to do what the leaders wanted or at least thought was best.
Judao-Christian and Islamic religions went a step farther and created the concept of sin as a method of control. They created a list of commandments and declared that to violate these was to be in sin. Some sins were of greater import than others but it all equalled to the same thing, commit too many or even one of the wrong ones and you would be barred from from enjoyment and peace offered in the afterlife.
So to answer the original question here, Can you swing and not be in Sin? Absolutely you can. Sin cannot exist seperate of heavily regulated and controlled organized religion. Since Religion itself is a fabrication of man, then so Sin is also a fabrication. I don't know too many swingers that particularly care for anyone else telling them what to do, how to do it, or whom they can do it with, regardless of the area of their life. Especially when it comes to their sex life.
Swinging and LDS... - Are the two compatible? I know this is a huge can of worms... - We were talking to someone we thought was a "vanilla" friend last night. She has told us in the past how she is a total LDS member and "very religious", yet we just found out that she is and has been in the lifestyle for quite a while. We are a bit perplexed. While we are not LDS, we assume the church would frown on the lifestyle. Is this not the case? Or are LDS'rs living a "double life"? We all do to a certain extent, we don't advertise that we are swingers. But, to you who are active LDS members, how hard is to maintain while attending church? To those who are not and have dated LDS members, is it difficult to have poly relationships with members? What are some of the obstacles? We do like her very much.
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