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Why are people afraid to give out their email address - - Ohhh...I forgot to mention: How very timely things can be sometimes....just recently, on another website (for swingers), I had given a new contact our email address. I did this at his request (a single male), so he could send pictures. He did... ...what he sent was an email that - I really could only guess why - was forwarded not less than 16 times. Apparently, our new found friend has been very busy. Now, I'm sure you've all seen the emails where the subject line is FWD:FWD:FWD:RE: (etc, etc...) I've never realized anyone could be thoughtless enough to simply forward an email with pics to us, when the same email has been forwarded to 16 other people. And it's all right there, "in the clear" so to speak, in his email. Now, think about this: Here's a guy who is telling us he's sincerely interested in her, how he's only interested in making friends and not the typical wham-bam kinda thing. Funny, he seems to cover a lotta ground for someone so sincere. All in the past week or so, I might add. It gets better: at some point...I don't know, maybe he's got two machines and was bouncing pics between them, or whatever...he's also unwittingly included a different email address for himself (which, by the way, told us right away he's not been honest about his name). He's put his own, 'real' email address in there as well! But that's not the part that really relates to the subject of this thread. What does relate is the issue of emails, making rounds you can't even imagine, because of one careless person. I made the mistake of trusting this person - and imagine my horror when I saw how careful he was with the other 16 people's info in there...what if some were completely unaware he was doing that? I bet they are! And now, HE'S GOT OUR EMAIL ADDRESS!!! How many of his emails to others will have our address in it? Ever hear of 'social engineering'? Well, if you haven't, do some research. This is how talented computer people can take a little shred of info about you from here, and a little from there, and next thing you know, your private affairs aren't so private. Sure, we're only talking about swinging sites, right? But, didn't someone above mention work email? Tell me no one ever got the two mixed up - or that no one ever forwarded your email - the one you sent in total confidence - to their work address, intentionally or unwittingly!! Of the 16 email addresses right there in his email, 13 were Yahoo email addresses...now, it's a hop, skip and jump over to their profiles - and now I know even more about the people our friend listed in his email. Interesting to see who all he's been in touch with. Ohhh, by the way? Two of them were crossdressers, says so right there in their Yahoo profiles. What if that somehow found its way to where someone worked? I'll tell you what, I know how these people - the 'social engineers' - go about finding out all sorts of stuff. It so happens I'm not into messing with people like that, or I could have a field day with this stuff. I'm not interested in it, but what if I were? Someone who was a real low-life could start contacting these people, saying things like "I know you've been in touch with X"...or they try to play a confidence game, by dropping names picked up from various sources: "Hey Jimmy told me you're..." after seeing an email from "James" so-and-so. There are countless variations, but these people are relentless - and they're not stupid! Think it doesn't happen? Think again. Every word of what I say above is absolutely true. May not sound like much until you consider all the possible ways it could be exploited. And it happened, just about the time I took interest in this thread. So, I hope this little story helps illustrate my point. I hope it helps answer the original question; *This* is why people are reluctant to give out email addresses. And, maybe they damn well should be.

A Place to Play - I have a new hot topic to discuss - Here in Utah most AirBnB's have rules againts inviting guess and having parties, not to mention to be quite and no loud noice after 9:00 PM, so that might not be a realistic option... however we like from time to time rent a double room suite, but it only works when real swingers attend...

Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - That’s freaking hilarious! If we’d been out and about we would have commented for sure! Maybe you should pack a rope to make a sling. Set a trap in the store. And film the catch! Make sure that check vitals and get good measurements before releasing them back in to their natural habitat! Lol. Would have loved to stumble upon this grocery cart

Hello summer - Swingers couple party - Why don't single females have to abide by those same rules? Seems discriminatory doesn't it?

Goblin Valley Swingers? - - [quote=RedHedandHusband]I have camped at the state facility at Goblin Valley. GV is amazing to see! The campground was very nice. Ideally there are two sites for tents only that are isolated from the others because they have a whole canyon to themselves! I think it's a great place[/quote] Good feedback. It looked like where the group was camping was not in a designated campsite, but more dispersed camping. Sounds like it would be fun and secluded enough for good times.

911 THE REAL TRUTH - - Please take this idiotic banter to a diferent venue... This is a swingers site and both of you are simply fucking with words that, if we were lucky and Japaneese or some other nationality we would disregard as simply noises made with letters. I think that if you wish to keep this crap up simply go out and do the impossible... and get off this flaming party. You are both like a Japaneese Zero trying to make the enemys carrier deck so as to kill any pilot still in the air because he cannot now land. Problem with this is that neither of you will ever hit the other's landing deck.. and maybe all you two are doing is taking your penis' out and flailing at each other with limp members. Aren't at least one of you big enough to put your dick back in your pants and get on with the business at hand.......Fun Fantasy and sex, real sex, not this impotent flailing of limp rhetoric.. Get off my channel and the channel of every other serious swinger in here. Take it out back somewhere.. Go meet in Vagas or NYC or how about New Orleans. Theres plenty of shit down there to throw since the waste treatment plants overflowed.. Isn't enough, enough. Grow UP NUFF SAID!!!!! BY me and definitely by both of you...Piss off

Group Cruise January 2017 - - We are booked on an ACTUAL swingers cruise in November... I highly recommend these compared to just a "bunch of people going together on a cruise" scenario.. theme nights, naked pool decks, and 3,000+ swingers all on a single ship.. Can't beat it! http://www.blisscruise.com/

Staying a couple in the lifestyle - - [quote=Sofutosuwappu]Our experience so far: Religious > naturist > meet naturists/nudists who are swingers > soft swap > non-religious > full swap with couples same room > full swap separate room Thoughts?[/quote] Wow - what a great thread Sofutosuwappu! I just read some of these responses today. We're actually shocked! Evil - 60 couples . . . WOW! This has not been our experience at all. While we are relatively new in the LS (since 2015) and we definitely have less LS play experience than most who have commented - our experience has been very different from that described . . . both in terms of our own evolution, but also in terms of what we have personally witnessed with friends. ALL of the couples we have met in the LS are still together and in loving long-term relationships (as far as we know). Part of that may be dumb luck . . . part of it may be in the 'rules' we set for ourselves. We don't play separately . . . part of the fun is seeing your partner receive joy, pleasure, and excitement! We also specifically seek out people in Long Term relationships . . . and we have stayed away from profiles that intimated a DTF (down to fuck) kind of mind set. Not that there is anything wrong with that - we don't judge . . . just not something we have been interested in. We are attracted to beautiful relationships. As for our own evolution . . we are STILL very religious, we jumped into the LS first . . . and THEN became nudists 🤣 We have made only a slight adjustment to our play style from our first adventure, and we have no interest in becoming 'non-religious' - we have found the LS to be a continuation or advancement of our understanding of the Judeo-Christian commandment to 'Love One Another'. Maybe we just haven't been in long enough . . . maybe we are self-deluded and are secretly living a life of cognitive dissonance . . . but so far so good. One HUGE change is that when we first started in the LS . . . we thought we would want to be completely anonymous . . . going so far as to create 'fake names' etc. (I know . . . but we were still virgins . . . we feel SOME guilt about that . . . but we have subsequently repented!😉) We thought that the less people knew about us . . . the better. That changed 180 degrees within the first 6 months of our stumbling into this LS. Now . . . we only seek friends . . . who can be genuine friends . . . and if that progresses to any type of sexual exploration . . . all the better . . . but the friendship rules. I'm sure we still have a lot to figure out in this regard - but we cherish our new and longer-term friendships . . . and honestly can't wait to spend time with these people. We are missing the summer live concert venues . . . and we can't wait till the next time we meet with friends. If that makes us 'poly-amorous' . . . then consider us 'guilty as charged' - We have somehow managed to maintain significant and deep friendships with just about everyone we've played with. We don't see that changing. Hope that helps - thought it might as far as providing an alternate perspective. We love the authenticity and honesty shown to us by friends in the LS - we honestly have a hard time now maintaining vanilla relationships . . . whats the point??🤷‍♂️ Thank you all for the riveting discussion!

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=INTERESTED1TIME1]Come to the dark side of swinging! We have cookies![/quote] See now that's the attitude that pisses vanillas off...when they think we're having more fun (or ANY fun for that matter) than they are...and that we have cookies too. [em]Emo_25[/em]

Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - I do think that the Christian church has it wrong regarding non-adulterous sex. After all Jesus said that the law was made up of love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. That says nothing about voluntary, non-cheating sex. I hope there is a Christian Swingers group (When the groups are back up) because this is a good topic, I learned a lot from a group on another site. Here is an interesting site: http://www.libchrist.com/ Mr. C