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We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - Queen, unfortunately your experience isn't so unique.
There are a fair number of people who are curious about the lifestyle and in their haste for some experience, neglect to mention whatever hangups they might have. People fear that if they don't throw in the obligatory "we're fun, open minded, and drama free" statement in their profile they'll appeal to a more narrow range of couples and it will take longer to have a first experience.
These people aren't always prepared for what's going to happen and I guess they just *hope* everything will work out okay - a very vulnerable state of mind.
This is why there are a few questions I try to harp on numerous times before meeting a couple regardless of what their profile states: Are you D&D free, herps free, what are your boundaries, is kissing okay, etc, because most peoples' knee jerk response is going to be the answer that they know is "correct" but not necessarily true. The key is to ask multiple times, because some people aren't likely to be honest until they understand that you're working in their best interest. Still, there are some people who will deliberately lie no matter what; there's not much that can be done for them. :!
Hopefully your first bad experience will be your last. Good luck!
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET]Gasp! Tens of thousands of swingers here in Utah.
I believe Utah now has a slightly higher-than-average divorce rate. The national divorce rate is 3.4% with Utah slightly higher at 3.6%. The percent of divorced residents in Utah is reported as 9.3% which is the 18th lowest in the nation. Don't ask me how those numbers reconcile. It has something to do with immigration into the state I am guessing. New Jersey reports that 8.5% of it's residents are divorced and that is the lowest in the nation.
Well what do you think? Did more than 3.6% of all the swinger couples, that you have met end up getting a divorce? Was it over swinging? Are more than 9.3% of the swingers population divorced? This would include all the singles now swinging that were once married. One woman telling the media how swinging ended her marriage is anecdotal at best. Do I believe she is telling the truth? Yes I do. Do I personally believe swinging ads an extra element of jeopardy to a marriage? Yes I do. Do I believe there are quite a few people that would be happier staying away from the swinging lifestyle? Yes I do. Never-the-less, most of the couples, we have personally met, that are swingers seem to enjoy swinging and frankly enjoy doing it together. Do I believe there are quite a few couples who will enjoy swinging? Yes I do, we certainly have enjoyed the lifestyle experience as do a lot of swinging couples we have met. In the end if you are a married couple you have to make the decision based on the two of you, as to whether or not swinging is a good thing in your lives individually and as a couple. As for statistical models as to the divorce rate within the community of swingers well there aren't any. This isn't really a news story it's sensationalist journalism designed to attract viewers. Anyway, the divorce rate has been going down since the 1980s and swinging has been on the rise since the 1980s so you could make an analogy that swinging is saving marriage. Yes it would be a bunch of anecdotal bull shit just like this story. [/quote]
Right. And swinging doesn't end a marriage anymore than cheating or lying or alcohol abuse or drugs, etc; people end marriages. Any relationship is an invention solely created by those people involved and only they have power over its progress forward. Will swinging or discussions about it lead to problems between people in relationships? Potentially. But any attempt by the anonymous lady in the story to blame swinging for anything is an attempt on her part to avoid accountability.
You can't blame the alcohol itself for the drunk.
PS, NJ may have a lower divorce rate b/c it's one of the few states that still grants annulment instead of divorce in certain cases.
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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=HELLO_KITTY12984]I figure that the golden rule, kharma, and working to better myself as a whole are good morals and make me moral and whatever. lulz. And as far as people thinking morals making you a good person... pretty sure you can be a good person with or without god. :P[/quote]
We have to agree with Kitty! We know that we live a moral life and we have nothing to fear from kharma. If only more people would only live by, "Do unto others..."
Barbies nude boating - - I see on the swingular home page a link to Barbies totally nude boating. We love pics and the such of swingers in action. It seems to be a good sight. But, has anyone here ever joined that sight? And if so, is it any good?
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Alton,
He's got you there. You did use the word "NIGGER" in the forum before Alton. You even called me a Nigger and told me that I listened to "NIGGER MUSIC". I think you should own it, if it's your opinion.
-D-
Small Towns - - The most Mormon swingers are in Utah? Who'd a thunk? I've heard there are more Mexican swingers in Mexico than anywhere else. And I was told by a friend in the KGB that the FBI has one of the highest rates of crossdressers of any spy agency (started with J. Edgar Hoover and well...). Oh and they said the NSA was all a bunch of ferret molesting hermaphrodites. I put in that last part because it's true and because the NSA is reading all this stuff (down in Draper at that big ass spy building) and touching themselves inappropriately while doing so. And they've prolly made copies of ALL of y'all's naughty pics and all the fat geeky computer nerds are jerkin' it to all of our swinger photos. Hey NSA dudes! Don't you wish you knew what a real vagina felt like?[em]Emo_67[/em]
Profile Pics - Why hide your husbands? - ok we will put our 2 cents in on this one as we have had to a couple of times in the past this has been brought up.
we have some of the male half but aroiund here 98% of the swingers are just looking and want to see pics of the wife.
they are in this for ff and the hubbys are just tag a lones.
we have really gave up on all this we just keep our profile because of good friends we have made.
we started swinging 8 years ago . at first it was fun people wanting to chat and meet.
we met one couple that we played with since we was new to this it was kinda off the wall.
and we didnt really have a good time.
then hubby brought a friend home and had a 3some with wife . she didnt really like it .
( not going to say why ).
then we went to a party and hooked up with this lady for a three some . while her hubby watched.
just to find out she wanted the wife. and hubby got to fuck her the whole 3 minutes before
the woman said im soar. soar after 3 minutes of fucking ? BULL SHIT!!
just to clear something up hubby has a 8 inch dick and yes he knows how to use it.
so looks like all this is not swinging but for women who want to fuck women .
thats why we never had many pics of hubby.
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - I think "Forum" is about being able to talk about any thing you want....doesnt have to be about just sex. If you want just sex or friendship, talk to people individually........ Just my thoughts :)
Jenn
what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - That e-mail was totally out of line and I would like to say on my behalf as a single male, I would never conduct myself in such a manner. If I were expecting to be a guest, then that is what I would be. The agressors are truly insecure. Sometimes too I wonder if some 14 year old didn't get access to an account or something like that.
None the less I continue to witness such a sensitivity to single males almost to the degree that saying hello is out of line. I guess that looks like another agressor. I do not want to come across as a whiner but it really makes it difficult for those of us who are hoping to make a connection somewhere.
One more thing to the originator, HOTTYZX2; you are a great looking couple and there is no reason you shouldn't have the kind of fun you are looking for. Hang in there, take care of yourselves and counsel one another about how to deal with such nonsense as the e-mail you received.
Sincerely,
Rick
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