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Soft-core roll call - A call out to those interested in the softer side. - [quote=PARTYINLV]Canvas, It sounds like you and your wife are not quite on the same page yet, which is quite normal at the beginning of exploring the Lifestyle. You are looking for friendships with those who are in a similar situation. That's a good idea, but be prepared that even those friendships may be fleeting as the chemistry or level of comfort may still be different. At the beginning of our lifestyle journey, my wife and I were just as you are today, (I was also at a different level as my wife too). TheFunCouple offers excellent advice on going to meet & greets. I also add that you might want to check out a place like Sea Mountain Inn in Palm Springs. There you can see how comfortable it is to be nude in front of others and witness all the different levels of the lifestyle. You will have opportunities to talk to others and learn more. There is no pressure to play. Plus, you will be out of Utah and away from people who might recognize you. If you are adventurous enough, maybe plan a vacation to Temptations Resort in Mexico. This resort is not truly a lifestyle resort but is a lifestyle friendly resort since so many non swingers go there. It still is a sexually charged resort. You will meet a lot of people who are similar to you there and you have a whole week to be relaxed, get into vacation mode, and explore your steps into the lifestyle together without judgement or pressure.[/quote] Thanks. I'm totally fine with my wife not wanting to be with another man. And she's ok with me being comfortable with another woman. So, not being on the same page doesn't cause issues as much as it adds to the challenges. Any way, I completely agree with you and TheFunCouple about meeting people in person, going to meet-and-greets, etc. That would be the best way to meet and get a feel for people. Two problems with that for us though: 1) We live in Podunk i.e., a long ways from Lifestyle events and 2) neither of us likes parties or any sort of large social gatherings. We're not hermits or socially awkward. It's just not our thing. I appreciate your post as well as the others.👍

Swing Camp (7/15 - 7/17) - Swingers Campout in Birch Creek Idaho - Sounds like a great time. Have you considered Fall creek??? Their are plenty of sites that are a non pay type that have lots of trees with the creek for some interesting bathing!!!

Same Sex Marriage - If you support - Wow, What a controversial topic I guess. Listen, We all have our own preferences. That is why most of us are here, no? I don't think any of us should be against same sex marriage just because it isn't the norm. If it's not for you then so be it. You don't have to agree with it. Doesn't make it wrong for someone else. A lot of people don't like swingers. I think we have had post about an entire religious organization trying to stop swing clubs recently, but that doesn't make our lifestyle choices wrong either. Tolerance is key here guys. It's not right for me either but I support those who it is right for. I see no reason the govn' or anyone else should impose on their rights to happiness anymore than anyone should stop any of us from swinging. Now for those breaking out the scripture talk, WTF? Let's leave that kind of stuff at church. I am sorry but we dont see any point to that at all. Maybe it was a sarcastic remark and if so I misunderstood and I appollogize. One more thing, "I don't at all. Long story short I ran into a girl I went to high school with. A night before my younger brother. Who deals dope and has snorted coke. That isn't the point. The point is Josh asked her if she wanted to get high with them since it as the night before his wedding. She didn't becuase we were fucking. LOL. Anyway, a couple weeks later we hung out a couple times. She got drunk and mad at me. And felt it was a good time to inform me that there were a couple gay guys that were friends of hers. Telling people I have AIDS in my home town. Never ever once bashed a gay guy, never even been mean to one. Maybe I should have. I have a little brother that went gay. That doesn't change the fact that he pops pills and is a pot head. I went to Claion University of PA for a year. The KDR's aske d me to pledge thier Frat. Spent the first semester pledging. In december right before Christmas break. I was at a party at an apratment that was being used by a couple KDR's. Anyway, the conversation led to ex-girlfriends. One of the brothers asked me to come into his bed room. Cause he said he knew the girl I was talking about. There wasn't a chance he knew her. Anyway, He told me I was thier favorite pledge. Lit a match held it infront of me then asked me to count to ten backwards. After i did that he blew out the match. then held a Cross on a chain in front of me and recited the Greek alpha bet. then snapped his fingers. he sat down on the bed looked me in the eye and said he knew the girl I dated in high school. That he could tell me how to contact her. All I had to do was suck him off. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. I laughed at him. funny thing was the big titted blonde that was dating one of the cooler brothers. Was leaning against the door when I walked out. She was to drunk to get out of the way when I walked out of the room. There is another story I have that involes one of the KDR brothers and his girl friend and me. I am not going to bore you but if you want to know I can tell you all about it. Think about that before you sign this petition. And don't get me wrong, As long as we have the constitution in this country then the government has no right to tell us how to live our personal sexual lives." Seriously, WTF are you talking about. Maybe I am just completely retarded but I don't understand a single point you were trying to make here.

sh*t swingers say - to preach to the choir - UCANTTOUCHMYMONKY, Swingy the Swing, oh my god that was awesome!

On a serious note... - A court case that could effect lifestylers with children - Thank you for the info Wanda... If government tried to judge us as parents simply on the basis of whether we were swingers or not, DC would be hearing a WHOLE LOT of NOISE from us... :@

Hot discussion - Hook up section? - [quote=OSTAR21]Swinger is a Swinger is a Swinger, Single married, committed, non-committed. What the fuck does it matter to you. The lifestyle was here long before Lookingforfun369 (creative name) were on here. You are the newbies and should show a little respect for others, whether you are into them or not. [/quote] Actually, single "swingers" are a relatively new concept. When my wife and I first started swinging (the late 80's!) there weren't ANY singles in the lifestyle. In fact, it was several years, at least, into the lifestyle before we saw an ad (that's how swingers connected back then, thru ads in cheap magazines sold in porn shops) from a single male. We vividly remember someone passing the ad around at a swing party and everyone marveling at it and wondering out loud how he could enter the wife-swapping scene (that's what many still called it back then) without a partner of some sort. Yes, the definition of swinger has changed or perhaps evolved is a better word. But there would BE no lifestyle, no swinging, if it wasn't for married, or at least committed couples, opening up their relationship to other people. Swingular would just be an AFF or a Tinder if it wasn't for couples. You might want to consider not getting quite so butthurt and taking your own advice about "show(ing) a little respect". Trust me, the single males who actually ARE successful here are those who do exactly that. If you don't believe me just ask around.

Ways to point out Swingers in public - - I like the black ring idea! Although my husband had a reaction to the silicon one we bought him so maybe would have to be something else.

Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - Love your sense of humor, smartflirts. I'd have crawled into your basket while you weren't looking. You'd-a turned around and been asking "who the hell put THAT in my basket?" And I'd have been hoping that there was some kinda rule that once it's in the basket, ya gotta take it home! :)

Why are people afraid to give out their email address - - Ohhh...I forgot to mention: How very timely things can be sometimes....just recently, on another website (for swingers), I had given a new contact our email address. I did this at his request (a single male), so he could send pictures. He did... ...what he sent was an email that - I really could only guess why - was forwarded not less than 16 times. Apparently, our new found friend has been very busy. Now, I'm sure you've all seen the emails where the subject line is FWD:FWD:FWD:RE: (etc, etc...) I've never realized anyone could be thoughtless enough to simply forward an email with pics to us, when the same email has been forwarded to 16 other people. And it's all right there, "in the clear" so to speak, in his email. Now, think about this: Here's a guy who is telling us he's sincerely interested in her, how he's only interested in making friends and not the typical wham-bam kinda thing. Funny, he seems to cover a lotta ground for someone so sincere. All in the past week or so, I might add. It gets better: at some point...I don't know, maybe he's got two machines and was bouncing pics between them, or whatever...he's also unwittingly included a different email address for himself (which, by the way, told us right away he's not been honest about his name). He's put his own, 'real' email address in there as well! But that's not the part that really relates to the subject of this thread. What does relate is the issue of emails, making rounds you can't even imagine, because of one careless person. I made the mistake of trusting this person - and imagine my horror when I saw how careful he was with the other 16 people's info in there...what if some were completely unaware he was doing that? I bet they are! And now, HE'S GOT OUR EMAIL ADDRESS!!! How many of his emails to others will have our address in it? Ever hear of 'social engineering'? Well, if you haven't, do some research. This is how talented computer people can take a little shred of info about you from here, and a little from there, and next thing you know, your private affairs aren't so private. Sure, we're only talking about swinging sites, right? But, didn't someone above mention work email? Tell me no one ever got the two mixed up - or that no one ever forwarded your email - the one you sent in total confidence - to their work address, intentionally or unwittingly!! Of the 16 email addresses right there in his email, 13 were Yahoo email addresses...now, it's a hop, skip and jump over to their profiles - and now I know even more about the people our friend listed in his email. Interesting to see who all he's been in touch with. Ohhh, by the way? Two of them were crossdressers, says so right there in their Yahoo profiles. What if that somehow found its way to where someone worked? I'll tell you what, I know how these people - the 'social engineers' - go about finding out all sorts of stuff. It so happens I'm not into messing with people like that, or I could have a field day with this stuff. I'm not interested in it, but what if I were? Someone who was a real low-life could start contacting these people, saying things like "I know you've been in touch with X"...or they try to play a confidence game, by dropping names picked up from various sources: "Hey Jimmy told me you're..." after seeing an email from "James" so-and-so. There are countless variations, but these people are relentless - and they're not stupid! Think it doesn't happen? Think again. Every word of what I say above is absolutely true. May not sound like much until you consider all the possible ways it could be exploited. And it happened, just about the time I took interest in this thread. So, I hope this little story helps illustrate my point. I hope it helps answer the original question; *This* is why people are reluctant to give out email addresses. And, maybe they damn well should be.

Any Swingers out there? Golf swingers that is... - - [quote=SMILEYMAN4U]Bill Murray "it's in the hole, it's in the hole" LOL[/quote] Cinderella story, out of no where...