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Swinging/Polyamory - I just wanted to hear other people thoughs on this....... - Exactly, so instead of saying your a swinger, you should use specifics. Like we are full-swap or we are soft-swap or we are seek polyamory. We are all swingers. It's like saying we are all human, but we have uniquity in ethnicity.
I agree that labels help. However, the label swinger doesn't apply to full-swap. It's simply not the way the word was intended. It's not what it means. "Full swap" means "full swap". Swinger means someone that deviates from the moral a social norms of their society with regard to sex. Libertine encompasses swinging because it falls under the scope of being morally unrestrained. I am a libertine by definition and swinging is only one aspect of that word.
There was a couple here not too long ago that was spreading intolerance by telling others they weren't swingers because they didn't "full swap". I called bullshit. This is far from the truth. I think tactics like that are used to pressure people that aren't comfortable with full swap into swapping. WE ARE ALL SWINGERS.
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Here's something Ive been curious about - - Congrats on 10 years in the lifestyle, SLOW. We're old timers as well and have been doing this off and on since shortly after we got married. Over 25 years now! So I guess I can sort of see both points of view and contrary to the current rather negative societal attitude towards political correctness I have no trouble being firmly on the side of being kind to people and not labeling or belittling anyone regarding their participation in the lifestyle. Having said that, however, I can also see the viewpoint of some couples since when we first started swinging there really were no singles (or at least so few that we never met any) actively participating in the lifestyle. A few years later we met a few singles who would, say, hire a hooker to gain access to parties and events or sometimes convince a friend to act as sort of a swinging "beard" if you will, again to gain entry to swinging events. This was all pre-internet so connecting was considerably more difficult than it is now. To say that the internet changed swinging (for better or worse) is a HUGE understatement. I was talking to a guy (formerly single but now in a couple) recently about his experiences as both a SM and a couple in the lifestyle. His attitude had actually changed dramatically. It reminded me of former smokers who now are militantly anti-smoking. His argument (now that he's no longer single) was to take the couples and the singles and put them on separate websites and what do you have? He said you have a swingers site and a hookup site. I told him that there are some couples who actually seek out singles over other couples but he wasn't easily dissuaded. One final point he made that I thought perhaps was a valid point...he said when he first started out as a SM in swinging he thought that all or most of the married guys who enjoyed seeing their wives getting fucked were basically cuckolds or at very least not real men. He said it took him many years and a lot of different experiences to lose that mindset. He also said that now that he's part of a couple who is frequently contacted by single guys he sees that attitude (because he recognizes it from when he had it) far more often than not. He stated that he would guess that the VAST majority of those single guys who don't "get it", the bad apples if you will, the ones who ruin it for the few good guys have that attitude and mindset. He said that's why there will probably always be somewhat of a schism between singles and couples. Whew, that was a long fucking post. Hope it made sense. No more herb before posting, Mr. Evil! LOL
Where on Earth are all the hot Virginia Swingers? - Show us what you have to offer VA!!! - Not Many Of Us,lol. The Anti Swinging Capital of the world is Va.,lol
Help us out.. Take this Survey - For Utah Swingers - Thanks Bmshell for trying to make our Swing Lifestyle better.What parties of yours we have attended we found to be just what we expected from your advertising. Thanks for the time you spend to make a party for us to attend.
Great New T-Shirts From Hell - http://www.tshirthell.com - There's another pretty cool site with a bunch of shirts aimed at Swingers. Check out:
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We ordered some stuff from them to give as gifts for the Holidays. They were quite a hit with our friends, both Swingers and Vanillas!
Las Vegas - - We are planning our trip to Vegas and want your opinion - please rank the below and tell why...
What is the best Swingers destination in Vegas:
Couples Oasis
Red Rooster
The Green Door
Power Exchange
Purrfect LV
Other?? ... Our hotel room will be HOT on March 7th and 8th ;-)
Lifestyle parties - - well alecia, you have been to my store and you are a very beautifull young lady, and a swingers party should be meet and greet, and not judge by color, sex or sexual oriantation, all on this site should be willing to know someone before judgeing them, so let start a party of all swingers big small, tall gay straight, bi invited all luv all walt
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Posted By: XXXTASYX2 Reply posted on:
Jan 8, 2008 - 2:00 pm
I guess that means if we were hanging out with you, you would be ok with us talking shit about Rednecks.
Are you going to be a "one trick pony" then? To us, if all you have are "Dumb Nigger" jokes or "Dumb Pollock" or "Dumb Chink" etc, etc, it gets boring. Now, if you are like Gunnery Sergeant Hartman who said: There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on niggers, kikes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless.", I don't think we have a problem.
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - TR,
NO i am not on here to hear my self bitch i am tired of u fuck nuts getting on everyone forums and fucking it up due to your two cents that isn't worth shit. to bad when u was leaving the site u did not go through with it i would of paid for u to leave i know it would of save a,lot of headache for everyone that r to chicken to stand up to u and the other computer rambos on the site, if u do not like me postsing THEN FUCK NUT WHY DO U KEEP POSTING ON THE FORUM AND U keep bitching about it, i think U r the one u like to hear himself bitch
dumb ass
have a good day!!!
motorcycle rides - - We enjoy riding. Swingers ride would be fun. We are going on a ride this afternoon.
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