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swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - hey dumb shit waaaaaa you are the one rebelling.you are the one that started whining about thread topics that YOU do not like.in your opionion no one else should like them either.if you will check the forum site again,that is where you went to start this thread,there is a section titled just talk and if you open your eyes a little more under that heading it says"non lifestyle related topics...".it does not say non lifestyle related topics that every one agrees to.as to name calling i do not believe i was calling anyone a name,but you are slinging quite a few around.seems to me i defended you on the spelling issue.but truth be known either you did not go to school at all or didn't listen when you were there because a fucking complete moron spells a whole lot better than you.now like every one has said if you do not like a threads topic then don't read it.it is just like television if you do not like what is on(now i am only assuming this)you change the channel.and if you think i am calling you a moron let me assure you i am not as a moron can spell better.
Phil
Tooele swingers party 2 - Doing our second party - We'd be interested!
Polyamory - Please share your thoughts.... - you can be non-monogamous without being a swinger. polygamists aren't swingers.
How has swinging made your marriage better? - - Communication (REAL communication) is the key but still it's not enough if someone really wants to stray or outright leave. There's been an interesting discussion on another swing site we're on about some of this topic and an old timer on there (who's now divorced) brought up something that we found interesting and that seems to be fairly ubiquitous in the lifestyle. It turns out that most women who have been in the lifestyle for a decent length of time have at one time or another (multiple times for Ms. Evil and some of the ladies we've known for some time) been told by a play partner (more often by a single male or even more often a vanilla guy...lot's of swingers seem to get a thrill out of vanilla hunting I guess) that if they were THEIR partner they would NEVER share them with another man. Think about that for a minute. With the way most women are raised and the messages society pounds into their heads about love, romance, fidelity, etc., how powerful are those words are. In fact let's take a little poll. Are there any women who've been in the lifestyle for, say, at least 5 years and play fairly frequently who have never had a guy tell them or insinuate that? Just curious.
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
weight approperate - - well I know this is going to start a shit storm.
But we look at it like this
1..sexstarved husbands and he's running the show.
2..he wants some strange pussy,but god forbid she gets any.
3..then you have the real swingers that could careless either way.
personally to us whats good for him is good for her.
you know who you are, so don't kidd yourself.
and as beening height and weight proportionate
thats rare for most swingers.
my hubby's a voyuer he rather watch then play,
you can kinda say he likes sloppy seconds LOL
kristylynn
asking your swinger friend if you can join them. - - Honestly, a lot of people here are being negative about single men. Don't let it make you feel like you are a leper. A lot of couples seek out single men. Everyone has their own preferences. If your friend confided enough in you to tell you that he and his spouse were swingers he obviously is open enough with you to not be upset you asked something like that. What exactly are you looking/interested in doing with her(them potentially)? Threesome, voyeurism, DP, DVP, or are you just wanting to take his wife alone for an evening of some great swingers sex lol?
Gun haters...gun lovers....How do you interpret......? - - First off I DONOT see the word sanctity in the amendment. You can't just add words to try and justify your side. Secondly our cicil rights are spell out in the amendments hence being call bill of rights. So I ask again which amendment gives people the right to wed.
As an aside though Don let's look at gay marriage another way. Let's say that by chance you decide to join a swingers website and state you do not want single men writing you. Now let's say that the two gay guys that got married are really only bi and they are on the same site.
Is it ok for them to contact you? You don't need to answer as it is just a rhetorical question.
flintstones swingers ? yes or no - - Omg I saw a funny email one day that had those 4 in an orgy...on my phone or I'd find it and post it...was funny as hell!
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - ...that all depends on who you ask! If you feel good about who you are, how you live your life, how you treat others... then yes, you are a moral being (if you weren't you'd feel it)...
xoxo, a very moral CandeeMe ;)
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