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Same Sex Marriage - If you support - Well to make clear this is the MRS part of Stitchutah, I can't speak for him. As for me, I have to admit there are some of you whom posted that make some good points, and then there are some that make no sense to the forum at all. LOL! I really like some of your opinions and you make good points, such as Kinbaku, Thoughtgarden, and to some extent REally98. I have to say though that even though I have read every post to this topic I really don't know where I stand on this issue of same sex marriage. I have to be honest and say, I am torn. Some of you can respect that and others will bash it, but either way.....its just honesty. I really like Kinbaku's point about who are we as swingers to judge a non traditional marriage when none of us married couples that swing and have open marriages can be considered "traditional" to the rest of the world. Infact, there are a lot of those outside of swingworld that place high judgement on our choice of lifestyle just as they do same sex marriages. ONe of you commented on (I can't remember who, maybe it was TR) or rather, asked how those that didn't agree with same sex marriages would feel if they couldn't be married to their spouse legally (excuse me if I got that question wrong, I believe that is how it was put) and I have to say to that.....being on both sides of the fence here, that if I couldn't be married to Mr Stitch, whom I love and cherish and will love and cherish for my entire life (just as I am sure a gay couple feels for their life partner) marriage to him does not change my feelings for him. I would still be with him, I would still love him just the same, my life wouldn't change as far as how I live or feel. I would still have my children and so forth. The only things it would change (which, mind you, are huge and helpful in our marriage) is our legal rights such as tax benefits, insurance (we don't have anyhow, but at least we have the option), and other things that I am not fully aware of I even have rights to. I am sure I take those rights for granited as I am sure other married couples do as well. I don't argue that point, at all. However, isn't there, and tell me if I am wrong, ways around some of those legal issues some of you have brought up (medical rights, when decision can't be made by person) by putting in a living will whom you've appointed power of attorney too? If same sex couples can't legally be married by laws set forth by the government then they just need to take extra precautions to protect what they can. They need to be proactive by doing whatever they can to protect their union. Yes, there are some things they won't be able to do anything about unless the law is changed, but there are some thing they can do, and they should do. Like I said, I still don't know what side of the fence I fall on.....I don't entirely agree with same sex marriage, however, I don't entirely disagree with it either. It to me is a complicated issue, and its very possible that I complicate it myself. Where I agree with REALLY98 ( I believe is their names) is where they state....where do you draw the line? The government has a hand in almost everything we do, including marriage, and there isn't anything we can really do to change that. I tend to agree with the statement that somewhere down the road if we move that line and say...Okay, same sex marriage is legal, then some ppl may argue well, okay, same sex marriage is okay so now, me and my spouse want to be married to our girlfriend/boyfriend or hell the couple we swing with,...... now why can't we do that, marriage isn't defined anymore as just man and women, so why isn't my rights to legalize poly okay? Some may argue, that it would never happen, but I am posistive that if you ask older ppl in the community that if they thought they'd ever see same sex marriage being brought up I am sure they would say HELL NO, we thought we'd never see that day, and yet, here it is! I just thought that was a good point that Really98 made.....now, the whole marrying an animal thing, ugggh, I really hope that day never comes, but then again, you never know what some ppl might do. (GRIN). I, for one, never will judge a same sex couple....nor do I want to EVER seem as though I am judging them. I guess I really don't think there is anything wrong with same sex marriage, truthfully. The conclusion I have made for myself is....I will live my life with my family and do what I can to raise my children to be tolerate, loving, and non judgemental. We try everyday to raise them to make their own decisions based on how THEY feel about things, not what others think (and if you don't think that isn't a task, it certainly is!!!) I think this world is getting to be more and more complicated, and it will only get worse b4 it gets better (no, I am not a dooms day person) and all we can do as parents and as a family is protect whom we love the most that being, eachother, and our children. Thats all, I am sure, everyone wants to do here whether same sex or "traditional" (however you define that) so I suppose we are really have the same agenda in mind, right?

Vanilla friends / lifestyle - revealing our lifestyle to longtime friends -

T4REAL69, The Don

There will always be those that are quick to pass judgement on others. We choose not to bother ourselves with people like that. We are no ashamed of who we are, nor are we scared of any of our friends or family finding out. As you can tell by my actions on these forums, I (Don), do not live my likes based upon what others think of me. I could give a fuck less. The people I love and live for already know, love and accept me. I say why bother wasting your time with people that suffer from delusions of being holier than thou. They can fuck off. I see it as a "need to know" situation. If our friends are indeed in the "need to know", we tell them. If we see potential in involving them, we bring them along to a party. If they have an issue and try and force their morals, we cut our losses. What's cool is now nearly all of our friends are swingers or swinger friendly. So it's really no longer an issue. Think about this. If a person... your "friend" were to say, "Swinging isn't right". Could you not just say, "What makes it wrong?" After all, you are not forcing them to do it. It maybe wrong for them. How is that wrong for you? It doesn't involve them at all. If they are so concerned with what you do in the bedroom, perhaps they are not basing the friendship on the things that really matter. They are not true friends.

-Don- "Ich habe einen kleinen Vogel in meinem Kopf."

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Meet and Greet/Play party - swingers party - Meet and greet/ hotel party The Golden Nugget bar Ramada Inn Pocatello 1-208-237-0020 133 West Burnside Interstate 86 Exit 61, Pocatello, ID 83202 US Ladies and gentlemen, we “Fifty shadesoffucking” kik group would like to invite you join us at the Ramada Inn bar “The Golden Nugget” one of our group members did some footwork and found that the bar is back open and they will work with us . In light of losing our hotel for parties after last year’s debacle. The bar will cater to us and they have made arrangements for us to get a block of rooms at 55$ a night the only drawback is Saturday nights they host Hispanic dances there so we booked a Friday night to see how things work out. This is also a cash only bar, knowing ahead of time will keep issues from transpiring. This is really a trial run to see if it is feasible for future events, the more the merrier. When making reservations please tell the front desk it is for the party on the 24th in “The Golden Nugget” there are 10 rooms set aside but more can be added to the promotion we are getting. The bar managers set everything up for us they are very willing to work with us and yes they know what kind to parties we will be having.

When was the last time you... - Wine Down Wed. Poll - This is a swingers site? Oh shit!!

Posting Digital Pictures - - As a former amateur photographer and hobbiest, I find that a lot of you folks are not fully aware of the ability of your camera to , not only TAKE pictures, in a variety of sizes but also to post them in a size that people can see. I REALLY shouldn't be upset but, I really don't have anything better to do than complain. ROFLMFAO Okay, so here's what you do.... First , FIND your owners manual from wherever you hid it, this is undoubtedly the MAN's fault, since men think they can get along without an owners manual. (Hey, I'm a man too. I KNOW of what I speak (or in this case type). hehehe After you have found the manual, READ the part that deals with how to get the best picture (pixels or megs) from YOUR particular brand of camera. THEN, take some quality shots and post THEM and remove the ones we can't see anyway (without a magnifying glass). Check out THOUGHTGARDEN's profile pics sometime. They are THE MOST CREATIVE COUPLE (as far as pics) (can't say about swinging).That I've ever had the pleasure of ogling. I crack myself up sometimes. Oh well. I'm OLD. GIVE ME A BREAK. Okay next part of the equation. This is a subject that I gave a talk on at a swingers convention in Chicago a few years ago. CONTENT of your picture. Ladies, you are NOT defined by your tits, or you shouldn't be. You are MORE than just a set of "fun bags". Men, I'll get to you in a second. Ladies , I KNOW you are worried about someone you know seeing your pics and "outing" you to all your friends and neighbors. BZZZZT, wrong answer. If they have taken the time (and money) to explore the pics on Swingular, then, they MUST be swingers too. If you MUST cover your face, (digital is a little harder than film), I would suggest making a print (on glossy stock) (better detail) and then use some electrical tape, cut to size, just covering the face. Pay attention to backgrounds, if you are scared, then you don't want pics of the kiddies or mom and dad in the background. Best bet is to hang up a multicolored sheet for the background. OKay, MEN, YOU are not defined by your penis, or you shouldn't be (where have I heard THAT before?). This Cock size thing has gotten way out of proportion ( did I just say that?). If a woman NEEDS a bigger cock, then she is NOT doing her kegel exercises. If you don't believe me , ask your doctor. Men, you should be doing kegals too. The stronger those muscles the more you can "twitch" inside a woman. Ask any woman, they LIKE that. So, guys, take pics of MORE than just your cock. See above for suggestions. Full body shots, artfully posed, are the ticket. Whether you be man or woman. Action shots are a whole nother kettle of stew. I'll save that for another forum. AFTER , I get yelled at for THIS one. LOL Would love to hear what YOU have to say on the topic. Oh, BTW, I maybe divorced NOW, but, I was married for eighteen years and we were swinging for all but the first six months of our marriage. We ever met with a couple the weekend before the final papers were signed. So, I'm NOT a "no-nothing" single guy. Swingonmyvine

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BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - SPERMINT, I didn't uh... I couldn't uh... I wasn't uh.... WHAT???? -D-

Swingers of Color - - Ever wonder why their are so few BLACkS, HISPAINICS, or ASIANS in the swinging life style?

We thought this was educational and should explain a lot about s - keep an open mind. Swingers are spiders. Each to their own unique ways! - he he he he funny stuff :D

Donte and bre - Hot swingers - [quote=zugzug]The lack of punctuation in that story made my private parts ache.[/quote] You TOTALLY missed the point! Josh is a stud and Kayla is a skank. Try to keep up. [em]Emo_49[/em]

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