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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=CRAZYFOXTCU]My previous comment was in no way intended to say that soldiers are immoral. We need them and they provide a courageous service for all of us. Just to say that those who seem extreme (the gang banger) may be acting in a way we can understand and possibly relate to.[/quote]
So what you are sayting is that 9-11 was really a moral act and Iraq was simply a moral responce to that act?
STD testing and physicians - who and where - The Utah Aids Foundation in Sugarhouse does walk in testing Mondays and Thursdays. They test for HIV (rapid results, you get them before you leave the clinic), and chlamydia and gonorrhea for free. The chlamydia/gonorrhea are just urine for the free tests, and since they are localized infections, paying for the self collect oral/anal tests are worth it as well ($25/each), as people frequently have those without realizing and while testing clean with their urine tests. My one complaint with there is that they take a while to get results (about a week) and I felt a little talked down to when they pull you into a room to talk about safe sex and using condoms; however, that is a small price to pay for the service you are getting.
While, as swingers, those are the two big ones to worry about, it is worth also going to your family physician to get tested for a full panel every few months (I do every 6/8 months for the full panel), since they aren't as common but can still affect people.
If you need something quickly and want to avoid paying too much, the best experience I have had is actually at the Salt Lake County Health Department near downtown (http://slco.org/health/std-clinic/testing-treatment/). They charge per test, and they are the least judgmental and most sex-positive place I've found. The only downside is that they don't take insurance, so it doesn't count against your deductible, and getting an appointment can be hard, but they do take walk ins.
Safe sex is fun sex, team! Let's all slut it up like crazy but keep it safe. We all have an obligation to police ourselves, and if something happens, take care of that shit!
What's in Southern Utah? - - no that just sucks for you my wife has the problem of turning strait people into swingers LOL
Orgy Party by Swingers Circle in Las Vegas - - Sorry. Don't mean to be. It's from breathing too many fumes from Stericycle and Holly. [em]Emo_8[/em]
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - If I look at my life in general I spend a hell of a lot more time talking about a whole lot of things, compared to talking sex...and even less time actually having sex....SO I guess we do have to fill the rest of the day after those exciting 20 seconds....
Is the coronavirus harshing your swinging buzz? - Swinging while wearing surgical masks! - [quote=Utahldscouple][quote=EVILDOERS]We've decided that the BEST way to keep the coronavirus at bay is to strictly follow the new rules of social distancing. Unfortunately, there are enough horny swingers running around that it's really hard. But our new patented procedure of not bathing or using deodorant and eating a diet high in onions and garlic (and never brushing our teeth) is proving VERY effective in reminding other people how important social distancing is. Send nudes and we'll send you a copy of this revolutionary system!
[img]https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o7TKvxnDibVYwawHC/giphy.gif[/img][/quote] Do you know if the virus transfers from nipple sucking or oral? Asking for a friend.[/quote]
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Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Personally I think you might be a little too eager (can't blame you, we all were when we started) and pushing just a little too hard to make her fantasy a reality. Rather than trying to find a way to get around the "Catch 22" of her fantasy maybe just explore it more verbally and see if it evolves into some kind of scenario that she is comfortable with that more easily can happen in the real world.
The most successful swingers we know, ourselves included, arrived at where they are by being open and supportive of each other's fantasies and desires without forcing them in any way. In other words, be patient, explore your fantasies verbally and maybe role play, a LOT, with each other before you jump into anything that either of you isn't quite ready for.
You might be surprised as you fantasize openly and honestly how your fantasies might evolve and become something that you eventually can and will make a reality. You know your wife better than anyone and maybe she does need a little nudge but most of the swingers we've known over the years who've crashed and burned did so because one partner pushed the limits too fast and didn't wait for the more hesitant partner to catch up. In our case we were quite surprised and what our fantasies morphed into when we really dug deep and talked about the truly deviant (by local standards anyway-lol) aspects of our fantasies.
Sorry, I know that's probably not the kind of advice you were hoping for but it's been our observation over a rather lengthy swinging career. Another thought, if you're bound and determined to make your first swinging experience a MFM, is to find a guy who is okay with just watching you two play or maybe getting involved in some soft swinging...i.e. back rubs and or touching but no intercourse. We were soft swap for the first year or two of our swinging life and it was great fun and took the pressure off until we were ready to take the next step. Best of luck!
edit- Sorry about what now seems like a long rambling response. In my defense it was pre-coffee. [em]Emo_79[/em]
Who’s had luck with single guys? - - [quote=LIVNITUP]You wouldn’t think that this should be very difficult to find a single male on this site for a threesome, but based on the posts I constantly see this place is plagued with males that talk a big game and then never come through. What do you guys do to filter out the good ones? This site needs to do a better job of getting rid of the single males that are all talk and no action. Maybe a three strikes and they are out. I realize sometimes things come up, but if it’s constantly that gets extremely annoying. Lots of us have lives and this kinda thing takes some planning. If you say you are going to show up and then don’t, it just wastes people’s time.[/quote]
Easy answer to the original issue: A lot of guys on here aren't "swingers." They're single men who strike out in the vanilla life style eo they come here because they assume the men are cucks. The second type are the knes just fishing for pictures and those are usually the blind friend requests or copy/paste messages.
And finally, the last group are the real single male swingers. They're probably the smallest group here and they're unfortunately lobbed in with the rest.
A year or 2 ago someone suggested a rating/vetting system for single males as to seperate them from the pack of horny zombies. Maybe that should be re-addressed.
Daybreak - Is the Daybreak area a hot spot for people in the LS? - I was talking to someone the other day and they mentioned that the Daybreak area in South Jordan has a lot of swingers since the houses are close together and you can easily walk around. Can anyone validate if there is any truth to this?
real members? - - You've struck on an interesting topic. I call them cyber swingers. They are swinger wanna be's . They find the thought of swinging erotic and interesting but they don't have the balls to actually get involved in the lifestyle. They like to hide behind the safety of their computer screen. They'll exchange email with you as long as you're willing or dumb enough to keep writing them. They'll never actually meet you or anyone else. That would be way too personal and would force them to crawl out from behind the security of their computer. Or you ocasionally run into the single guy that has created this fictional "couple". It's all a big game for him. He's just there to collect photos or maybe trick someone into playing with him because his wifes is "unavailable " at the moment. Whatever their game they're all the same because they both violate the principles of honesty and trust that the lifestyle revolves on.
We get email all the time from couples that "have read your profile--think you guys are great and want to get to know you better". That generally sends off alarm bells for us. We'll respond and exchange an email or two. If the other couple doesn't have pics posted or pics of just one of them we ask for additional photos in the first email. Since we have good pics of both of us in our profile we never send any other pics other than those posted. If we get the "don't have any pics of him or he's camera shy or don't have a camera yet" or any one of the other lame excuses we've gotten over the past year or so--that's it--you're done as far as we're concerned. We'll give out our cell phone number right away and tell them to call us or give us theirs and we'll call them. We want to speak to both of them. If we can't because one's not there we'll call back at a more convenient time when we can talk to both of them. If everything seems ok during the conversation we'll make a date to meet at a convenient restaurant or club and take things from there. This seems to work well for us. It tends to weed out the "cyber swinger" right away.
John & Colleen
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