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Here's something Ive been curious about - - Congrats on 10 years in the lifestyle, SLOW. We're old timers as well and have been doing this off and on since shortly after we got married. Over 25 years now! So I guess I can sort of see both points of view and contrary to the current rather negative societal attitude towards political correctness I have no trouble being firmly on the side of being kind to people and not labeling or belittling anyone regarding their participation in the lifestyle. Having said that, however, I can also see the viewpoint of some couples since when we first started swinging there really were no singles (or at least so few that we never met any) actively participating in the lifestyle. A few years later we met a few singles who would, say, hire a hooker to gain access to parties and events or sometimes convince a friend to act as sort of a swinging "beard" if you will, again to gain entry to swinging events. This was all pre-internet so connecting was considerably more difficult than it is now. To say that the internet changed swinging (for better or worse) is a HUGE understatement. I was talking to a guy (formerly single but now in a couple) recently about his experiences as both a SM and a couple in the lifestyle. His attitude had actually changed dramatically. It reminded me of former smokers who now are militantly anti-smoking. His argument (now that he's no longer single) was to take the couples and the singles and put them on separate websites and what do you have? He said you have a swingers site and a hookup site. I told him that there are some couples who actually seek out singles over other couples but he wasn't easily dissuaded. One final point he made that I thought perhaps was a valid point...he said when he first started out as a SM in swinging he thought that all or most of the married guys who enjoyed seeing their wives getting fucked were basically cuckolds or at very least not real men. He said it took him many years and a lot of different experiences to lose that mindset. He also said that now that he's part of a couple who is frequently contacted by single guys he sees that attitude (because he recognizes it from when he had it) far more often than not. He stated that he would guess that the VAST majority of those single guys who don't "get it", the bad apples if you will, the ones who ruin it for the few good guys have that attitude and mindset. He said that's why there will probably always be somewhat of a schism between singles and couples. Whew, that was a long fucking post. Hope it made sense. No more herb before posting, Mr. Evil! LOL
Single male in this lifestyle.. - I have questions for couples and single females. - [quote]why is it that girls and couples look for girls more than guys?[/quote]
So you're asking why do swingers prefer MFF instead of MMF?
Because most women in the life-style are bi-sexual to varying degrees, and most men are not. Not even a little bit. Thus, MFF becomes the "third wheel" combination that most swinger couples can enjoy together. (Versus MMF, which is really more just about pleasing the female).
Why is is to hard for a single-male to find a couple to play with? Well, see above.. most couples don't want MMF... and those that DO want MMF have about 10,000 of you to choose from. Supply and demand.
This isn't that complex.
Do you mix your vanilla and lifestyle friends? - - Though I have to add that we have been to a few parties/bbq's where it has been mixed...never really turned out that well cuz everybody knows after a few drinks us swingers can't keep our hands to ourselves or our own partners...hehehe
Meeting LS With GPS Locations~Nearby Services - Meeting others through Technology... - SDC (Swingers Dating Club) app has something like that. Everyone's location shows up on a map as a color coded dot. You can click on the dot and see the profile or event. Is this what you are thinking about?
Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - We are looking more for some interaction with others SUENDAN, LOL. It's always an option to have a party for 2 however. May try suggestions from PANDJSWING. Thanks for responding.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - I think there is entirely too much bickering and bitching in these forums, and not nearly enough fucking....with the exception of Don :P
Everyone here has their own tastes, their own likes, their own dislikes, and no one here is going to fill a need for everyone (again with the exception of Don, who's going to fill something ;) ). Just take what you get, have fun, and don't worry about what others think.
Mrs. Two's two cents ;)
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - Theres nothing harder than aquarian wood.
Why are there so many swingers from Utah? - - We have some hot girls her that are very down to earth, playful and real - so need we say more as to why - to your question. Plus is helps that one of the creators of this AWESOME site lives and plays in Utah as well ;)
Preconceived Ideas - - It's been a long time, but I'm not sure that I had any preconceived ideas. I'm poly and responsibile non-monogamy was nothing new to me. On the other side of this relationship B knew I was Poly and she didn't quite understand it but trusted me. She was "curious" that is to say if she saw FF play in a flic she got so gushing wet.. but because of her catholic upbringing, she couldn't be Bi....that's a sin.....??.... Well we went to a party and luckily a couple and staff members sat down and talked to her and she watched people and talked to others and found out they were not pervs. Nurses and medical personel are probably the largest group in swinging. Cops, (police for the people who don't like the other term) truck drivers, mechnics, architects, contractors, engineers etc... So a good cross section of the general populaion are represented.. When she found this out...she embrassed the lifestyle and she loves to dance and... let her libido run. She was no longer curious after a couple of parties.... So she can get nude do whatever she wishes and even have orgasms on the dance floor dancin with herself.... WOW... So her preconceived ideas was that swingers were pervs... Oh...and I guess we are... By the vanilla world.....Give em time... pretty soon maybe everyone will cum over to the lifestyle,,lol
Canadian members - searching - We are also members of SDC and until recently they had a program called VidWebChat. This was an interesting link to other lifestyle groups they sponsered like Swingers Europe, Swingers Latino and others. They recently dicontinued that service stating that there were too many outcasts from other clubs logging on, or something to that effect. Hopefully some of our friends we met overseas will find their way to this site so we can renew our friendships. Regretfully, we didn't exchange e-mail addresses with some of our foreign friends:(
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