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This one time at Swingers Camp... - N By N Camp out - on my calendar for next year....im even going to buy camping stuff....including some dramamine. apparently a rocking trailer screams to helped along. hello motion sickness...lol. thank you to those who held my hand, rocked my world, and looked out for my welfare. and yes, I do now understand the difference between my battery light and low radiator fluid. ~blush~
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Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - We would be interested in meeting new friends
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We do prefer to play out of state, but if the ambience and feeling of the place was exrremly safe and private then we would attend once a month..at least :)
Swingers Kickball Society - - We would love to join
Swingers Kickball Society - - My husband and I would be interested. It sounds like fun. Great idea! Please let us know.
Oregon?? - Oregon?? NE1? South? Central? Western?NE1 at all? Jeeze - This site was founded in utah that is why so many peeps from utah. I am in idaho and not many active swingers on here from idaho.
Playing Alone - - Couples all have different rules. Many categorically refuse to play alone with ANYONE ever. This is their "security" place. They feel comfortable in the place where they can see each other and "protect" if necessary. It takes some people a long time to get passed this.
It's kind of a 'control' thing leftover from the vanilla life. I'm not saying it's bad, good or indifferent it's just the way it is. Some people take longer to get passed their histories as vanillas than others. As they progress and get more comfortable with themselves, the lifestyle, their partners then they will slowly open up and begin to trust a bit more.
Don't take it personally, that's the key. Many people still hang on to their vanilla background that their partners are their most 'valued' possession. I liken it to my $450 deep sea fishing reel. Sure I'll loan it to someone to use if I'm on the boat with them and can make sure they're taking care of it. Is there anyone I'd just let 'borrow' it out right for the day or weekend? Not a chance in hell.
It takes time to let go of that 'she's/he's mine' get feeling. I think my wife and I took almost 6 years before we got there successfully. We tried many times before that but it never worked out well for either of us. We finally came to a point where it's okay to play separately everything from next room to next state it no longer bothers us. I personally prefer within 30 - 50 miles so she get's home faster for the "after play" sex you're describing (which I really like too.)
You'll have to find a VERY secure, VERY established, VERY strong couple to fulfill your fantasy. They are out there, my wife and I for example but even though we're open to playing separately are we open to YOU playing with her or me separately? That's a different level of trust. Does it mean no? No. It means "maybe" in time it's a possibility. (I'm speaking hypothetically of course.)
Don't worry your "couple" or "person" will come along. You might also try investigating a subsection of the lifestyle called "hotwifeing" while I know few swingers who are hardcore into only hotwifing, there are quite a few that tip toe in that part of the lifestyle (quick def, she plays he doesn't except with her.) That's the post play joy for you and the play and post play joy for her. Most people just bounce between that and swinging. There are people out there just be patient and don't expect it from any current playmates that you have established rules with, they need to progress at their own speed.
Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - Ok so when you bring in a single women is your huband a swinger since he is with another partner? There a many people in the lifestyle that only have mfm's of fmf's so how would you classify them? For the most part I can agree with you. Swinging is the exchange of parnters for sex. To each their own and enjoy it how ever you like it!
LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - done. Divorced, remarried non-LDS might be a key question to add.
Only 12 couples within 100 miles on our search - Just using the search criterion of :non smoking, slim or athletic, 35-55, couples, soft swap yes, st - Just to make sure the point has been made.
[quote]RESULTS: Of 8971 consultations, 12% comprised swingers (median age 43 years, IQR 38-48). Overall, STI prevalence was highest in youth, men who have sex with men (MSM) and swingers. Older swingers had a CT prevalence of 10% and an NG prevalence of 4%. The share in STI diagnoses in the older age group (>45 years) comprised 55% for swingers and 31% for MSM.
CONCLUSIONS: Swingers comprise a substantial proportion of STI consultations. They are a mainly older age group and form an important part of STI diagnoses. While other risk groups for STI, such as young heterosexuals and MSM, are systematically identified at STI healthcare facilities and provided with appropriate services, this is generally not the case for swingers. Swingers, like other groups with risk behaviours, need to be identified and treated as a risk group in STI prevention and care.[/quote]
So that means OLDER swingers such as yourselves have a higher risk of sti then bi or gay men.
A gay or bi man is more likely to protect him self then a older straight man and woman but they still engage in anal and oral sex just the same.
All swinging and adventure life styles are risky not just bi-men/women.
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