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Verified "Real" People - - [quote=CNKISS]The funny double standard is we have watched couples and guys jump all over a girl who is cheating and is just "unfulfilled" but a guy who does it is a cheating asshat douchebag...which in truth they are both cheaters! [/quote] I agree. I wonder if some excuse them for cheating because they are so rare. I bet if they were as easy to find as men they would also be held to account. Here's an idea. If we discover cheaters, let's just tell them to go to AshleyMadison.com and leave the swinging to the honest people. Yes, I know not all Swingers are honest or think it is our place to judge. I disagree. We always make judgments for what is acceptable to us and what is not. Swinging is about honest fun and cheaters are not being honest, so why should we include them? The suggestion is only for those of us who want honesty. Think about this, if there was no honesty swinging would cease to exist.

Bubulaplease - Confidentiality - [quote=EVILDOERS]The NSA probably already knows you're swingers. And if they don't, Google almost for SURE does! lol And as far as increased domestic surveillance after the inauguration, I think you only really need to worry if you're, like, a Muslim...or a minority...or a liberal...or a woman. [em]Emo_10[/em] [/quote] NSA stopped listening to my calls once Obama became president. I guess they didn't hear anything worth taping. And considering that I'm a new Swinger, it's entirely possible that no one has the goods on me just yet. On the other hand, there's this: [url=https://youtu.be/SOWB4NTLl5g]Bow Down to President Trump[/url]

Thinking of checking out UTAH - Been on this site for awhile, seems like the partys over in Utah - Well, CBUTAH, some of the best people, period, are in the lifestyle. I don't mean the lookie-lous, or people who jump in just because they think anyone on a swingers site will fuck anyone of the right sex that asks. Even though some folks seem to think there are lots of those types, and there are a number of them, they're outnumbered by the real people, the ones who are essentially honest, who are open-minded, accepting and considerate of the feelings and desires of others, and, perhaps most of all, who are intelligent and who think for themselves instead of just following the crowd in whatever direction is the most popular at the moment. Those are the people who make it a real community, not just a bunch of sex hungry whatevers. The others, who are here just for whatever sex they can get and don't give a damn for anything but their own personal pleasure, well, they usually don't get a lot of that pleasure, not over the long run, and mostly they eventually either manage to give themselves away or get tired of trying with little or no result, and then they leave. And for YOUNGCHARM, what do you mean by "check out" Utah? You're in Illinois. If you mean to check it out strictly online, I'm not sure what you'd get from it. While there are certainly people who enjoy sexting, sex chat and sex camming, I think the majority of people want to meet people in the flesh. If you're hoping to meet someone online, and then visit Utah to hook up, well, there just aren't millions of people who will make a for sure hookup commitment with someone they've never actually met. Many will do a "I like what I see, and I think we'd probably click and hook up, why don't we meet and see what happens?", but there's no actual certain commitment in those situations, and Illinois to Utah would be a pretty long trip if it turned out to be for nothing. The only other possibility I can think of would be if you came here and spent at least a couple of weeks and went to some Meet N Greets or events that were open to everyone. But many of those "open" events bar or restrict single males, and single males aren't usually terribly successful at the first few Meet N Greets they attend. The one way I can think of that it would likely work well is if you have a girl friend who'd like to swing who came to Utah with you. Then you could participate as a couple in whatever events were going on while you were here, and if you were here long enough might even get invited to some house parties, and would be pretty likely to enjoy the visit. IS that what you were thinking of? I'm discounting actually moving here, I just can't imagine anyone doing that for no reason other than to check out the local swinging community. ~ Terry

Just in case it mysteriously disappears - - OK...IF their filings with the State of Florida are not filed in a timely fashion that does not stop them from doing business, it simply removes the protection a Corp, LLC, or Partnership affords, IF someone where to file a lawsuit DURING the lapse in paperwork, then they would be personally liable for it, BUT the courts have been quite lax is that arena... Perhaps you need a Florida lawyer who knows Florida laws...Every state is different. Also...Do you ACTUALLY believe the AG of Florida gives a rat's ass about a swingers' site based in UT? YES...He does, as there are NO baby rapers, mother stabbers, or scummy "investment" people here in the Sunshine State, hell the AG can work 60 hours per week on simple unlicensed contractors in Florida....

is it true about swingular??????????????????? - - An offshoot... Some history and info that was very interesting to me. My Dad, who has been a swinger for over 30 years, said that back in the early 70's (back when all they had to hook up with was a couple of magazines!) the 2 hot spots for swingers were California - Duh! and Utah - What? So our Utah motto is "The church keeps repressing them so we can keep undressing them".

Odd pattern. - Why the interest/disinterest? - I'm not surprised to see mentions of homophobia and haste in filling out the profile as possible reasons; I hadn't thought of the male ego being so driven as to ignore disinterest from gay women. Yet that ego can't be reasoned w/ when the interested person's equipment matches the imagined ideal but the original birth certificate does not, even when reproduction is not on the table. As Terry pointed out above, every blastocyst starts out female and slightly less than half mutate into males as they become fetuses. AHARLEYCPL, not only is hate mail unwarranted, I'm personally pleased this discussion, for all its potential thorns, hasn't disintegrated into discriminatory ugliness like it would on some sites where the membership is more mainstream; I think it's b/c swingers already think outside the societal norms when it comes to expressing sexuality and have more of a 'live and let live if no one gets hurt' mentality. Being a swinger isn't about thoughtless sex, it's about even more thoughtful sex and this discussion shows that. :)

Why swingers are happier. - - Evildoers; I know it is for fun but I shake my head and chuckle. I now know what you do for a living. You must work as a spin doctor for a political organization. Because no other intelligent individual could take that much info about the general public and make it apply to everyone in this lifestyle.[em]Emo_17[/em]

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Does anyone know if Unspoken is having a LS gathering Friday night and if so what is the secret code to get in the door? If I recall this info is all on a secret facebook page that we are not on. TIA

Swinger Literature? - magazine articles, books, web articles... - One book that cums to mind instantly is "THE ETHICAL SLUT" And if you're lookin for fiction.. Sci Fi.. "Time Enough for Love" and another is "Stranger in A Strange Land" both by Robert A. Heinlein Not exactly about swinging but more about the lifestyle of either Polyamourous or Swingers in a fashion....The Ethical slut is kind of the grandfather of swinging handbooks and how to pull it off.. The other two are quite good about polyandrous/polygamous/polygynous relationships.. Could be fun to discuss, particularly the merrits and or negatives as it relates to the book/s and how it might relate to relationships in today's world, i.e., swinging...

Sexy Soft Swappers - Looking for like-minded friends for hanging out and house parties - Hi all - Apologies for the slow response on this, we dropped our initial message in this forum and then the holiday craziness hit, and it has taken us a bit to get back to getting this rolling. We also had so many responses here, and sent to us in person, that gave us a lot more things to think about in creating this sort of group. We are glad to see so many other groups be formed because of this thread, and we have been working with Nakedcouple5150 (Jonsie) above to try and figure out the next best steps. Jonsie is 1000% times more organized than us and has really spearheaded getting all the requests together into some sort of manageable form for us to start creating groups and adding people to them. We immediately ran into a few things though: 1 - we have well over 130 requests to be in the initially proposed Kik group, and Kik only accommodates 50 per group. Could we use Swingular or another app to include everyone? Sure - But, we specifically wanted to hold this in Kik, so that is what we have done and will continue to admin. I think there are several folks who have set up other groups via Swingular or other apps because of this thread, and I encourage you to hit them up if you'd like to join one of those that accommodates more than 50 users. 2 - We started this thread so that "soft" swingers who often feel pressured in the larger events or groups would have a space where they felt expectations were already clear, but, of course, there are various levels of what many of us consider "Soft." So...... What we have done is decide create a few different groups to accommodate the requests and also to try and group like-minded, and geographically relative, people together. When either Jonsie or I send you an invite we will ask you to rate your level of "Softness" on a scale of 1-3, using these definitions: [b]"1: enjoy soft only 90-100% of the time (kissing, touching, rubbing, light fingering, no oral with anyone but your partner, no intercourse with anyone but your partner)Expect not to be pressured or invited to partake in oral or intercourse partner swapping in the Kik group or at events organized via the Kik group. 2: soft 50-90% of the time (kissing, touching, rubbing, fingering, oral, no intercourse with anyone but your partner) Expect not to be pressured or invited to partake in any partner swapping in the Kik group or at events organized via the Kik group. 3: soft 10%-50% of the time and okay with swapping intercourse [/b] Using your response, we will try and put you into the group or groups that fit you best. If you want to save us some time, you can also use this Google Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UfKua5zp4tWWcC3OSKQqt2S5lKhm8M9nI4elWrK3EzI/edit?usp=sharing to fill out your preferences. Just remember that if you use this, people may be able to see your email address in the "shared to/accessed to" list. Obviously, no approach to organizing all of this is perfect, and if you aren't down with how we have chosen to try and tackle it, we definitely encourage you to start your own groups/threads. Thanks to all you sexy softies for your interest and patience :)