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Are there any real players on this site? - - [quote=Mayaswellplay]We have met some really fun people on this site but we are I Utah and it seems to be more active here. I think half the profiles think they want to be swingers, make a profile then get scared and never come back. Lol.[/quote] We have a similar opinion. Having lived all over the country, while participating in the lifestyle, we have observed that Utah has an entirely different, and quite immature vibe when it comes to swinging. We believe being on the site is what gets them off. They're being SUPER naughty, crafting fantasies together, but doing nothing more than taking up space. The forums are a great example of that. All these threads about posting pics are lame AF. "Whose got the best ass!", "Show us your big dick", "TITTY TUESDAY!!". WTF ever... that's Jr. High stuff. You really don't see it on other sites the way you do on this one. In other parts of the country, they don't want you to post a pic of you pussy. They want you to get in the car and bring it over to the house to get fucked. After all, that IS the point. From the outside looking in, having experienced both sides, Utah is comical AF!

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - It sounds like a great idea, we too are also looking for people that we can trust and let it all go. Count us in.!

Swinging and LDS... - Are the two compatible? I know this is a huge can of worms... - [quote=SIREROS]I find puzzling the judgment of others by those that seem so adept at mental contorsions as some of these people have clearly perfected. [/quote] There are cult books out there that show how and why any human can get stuck in these logic loops, even if they weren't raised in the church they can get stuck in them. And its especially hard if it's something you were born into, your biological urges screaming at you to disobey it. And the fact is the LDS church has given so many different commandments over the years that it is very hard to follow them all. 1) no pool tables 2) no playing cards 3) no rated r movies 4) may wear only 2 total earrings, but they can be 2 pearl. 5) only get a tattoo if you are polynesian and your cultural heritage commands you to get one 6) to be in a bishopric or higher, the only facial hair permitted is a neatly trimmed mustache above the lips only. May not go below the corners of the mouth. 7) girls have to wear pantyhose to church, naked legs are not allowed (bless that 70 - love pantyose) You should really look into cult dynamics to understand how the human brain locks you into staying in a cult, especially if you were born & raised, and every family member is in it, and how it can happen to anyone of any intelligence level. And being in swinging might be a good way to help them learn to be more open in their respect for others. I know several swingers who got out of he LDS chuch by swinging.

How close is too close - - If you have problems in your marriage, swinging is not going to fix them. I think the excitment of swinging will, perhaps, camoflage them for a short time. But in the long run if there are problems the level of trust that is required to swing -- just will not be there. But I wonder how our statistics compare to the general public? Are swinging couples getting divorced at a higher or lower rate? Comparing our swinging friends with our vanilla friends, the swingers seem far more happy with and into their mate. The scenarios and issues raised by this question, happen in and out of swinging. Remember the joke -- "my wife ran off with my best friend, and boy I am going to miss him". That is a vanilla life joke. We all need to take care to respect the intimate relationship between other swinging couples. We should all expect others to respect our relationship with our spouse. But in the end, if you trust each other enough to swing successfully, then I think the other issues of life will prove to be fairly easy to handle together.

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - Have your back on that response THOUGHTGARDEN! K&N

New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We would definitely come keep us posted

New Lifestyle Club - Announcing New Club In Oklahoma - Anyone that's in Oklahoma may want to know there is a new swingers club opening this month. http://www.okccitynights.com

what the f#%@ was he thinking? - swingers still deserve respect - Sorry, some people are just ill-mannered. The good news is there's a possibility that he's just new to it and hasn't learned how to act properly yet. I've seen the behavior before lol we all know how all you men have to be trained <<<<ducking>>>>

Cabincpl - Hot Tub Purchase Virgins - [quote=MJOFSLUT]We have both a Bullfrog A7 and an Arctic Spa Tundra currently. Bullfrog is in SLC home and Arctic Spa is at our St. George home. I’ve owned 4 Bullfrog Spas now. I’d never buy another Bullfrog Spa after having the Arctic Spa Tundra. Cleaning Bullfrog spas is very laborious, involving, pulling out seats and cleaning both the interior finish as well as the backside, hoses and fittings. These are not easy to clean and keep clean folks. Meanwhile, at our second home in St. George, the Arctic spa practically maintains itself and very easy to remotely monitor chemicals and raise and lower and turn on/off jets. The salt water system is the best. And saves you sooooooo much money in chemicals, cleaning and filters. We were recommended the Arctic Spa by 2Gemini’s and very happy we went that route, especially for a second home that needed east maintenance. GO WITH ARCTIC SPAS.[/quote] We have been thinking of getting the ultimate swingers accessory a.k.a. hottub. Nice to see a fellow southern utah couple chime in. We might have to check out this tundra spa. You know for research. 😏🤭

Who started it? - Who/How/How long? - Before we were in the lifestyle, we went to Hedonism. Nothing happened, but it started an itch that I knew I had to scratch one day if I could convince my wife. Years later at a vanilla party with friends and being drunk, I inadvertently mentioned we went to Hedonism. Our best friends picked up on that and asked if we were swingers. To our astonishment, they told us that they were in the lifestyle and encouraged us to consider it. A few months later, the wife and I went to Sea Mountain in Palm Springs and I told her that I wanted to watch her have sex with another guy. Later that day, she introduced me to a guy and stated that he would be the guy she would have sex with. So, it happened and I loved it. I told my friend who then helped me set up a profile on a swingers website and shortly afterwards, we met another couple from it for our first couples experience. The rest is history. BTW, that initial profile has undergone 1000 revisions as our strict rules were eventually eliminated. Haha!