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Swinger & 🦄 Bait - An experiment to attract swingers and unicorns. - So should I put a pineapple on our porch tonight? Try to turn a mostly vanilla party into something more.

I’m defense of single males - Funny old geezers - [quote=DELICIOUSLYWET][quote=PARTYINLV]We are in our sixth year on this site. We are also currently on three more sites, even after dropping two more. When we joined Swingular, we were taken aback from the negativity toward single guys. We did not see this this level of animosity on any other of the sites we are or were on. Aside from the folks from Idaho and Wyoming (and very, very few nationwide), this site is predominately Utah based. I am not negatively judging Utah since a survey or research was never done, but we had to wonder if this hatred is a Utah thing. Or was it a few couples who made it seem normal to hate and everyone just jumped on the bandwagon? Human history has taught us that ostracizing is easier than accepting. Who knows? We certainly don't understand it. Many couples correctly point out that single guys are not [b]"swingers"[/b] since they don't swap. But, we believe that single guys are part of the [b]"lifestyle"[/b] for many couples. Why is fmf ok, but mfm is not ok? As a side note: The vast majority of our play is with couples(our preference). But we occasionally like mfm for the different dynamics it offers. We have been very lucky with mfm and haven't had a bad experience yet, which I cannot say is always true with every couple we've met.[/quote] We live here. Our experience is that most couples do not hate single men. Most married men are not intimidated by the presence of single men. Most couples and singles whether super active or rarely active in the lifestyle don’t post anything in the forum section of this website. As is the case with so much on the internet, a few of us that do read or post in the forums, may give others the impression that we are a good general representation of the community’s mindset. Obviously we aren’t. What we read here is mostly just personal preferences. There are some thoughts expressed that we find interesting, sometimes enlightening. Sometimes people are just venting. Sometimes it’s angry venting stemming from personal experience. As for insecurities, we all have at least a few.[/quote] Perhaps I am just mistaking the complaints I see in forums on the home page as a reflection of the general attitude here

We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - we ike to know the cpl a little b4 fucking... but the extent is like what music do you listen to... do u play chess...what r ur hobbies...etc... dont care that your mothers brothers, cousins brothers sister is a slut... tmi... but knowing the cpl and some of their interests is food for thought for activitys outside the bedroom.....but the b4 mentioned drama is what we try to avoid.....just our 2cents worth...dennis and sara

Mormons - - Evil, we agree. We want to believe that therr is a gene or a doctorine in the BoM that creates hot swingers, but this is a dead thread. Mormons are no more likely to be swingers than anyone else.

Friend collectors or swingers - - My opinion, which hasn't changed in ages, is this, and I'm not chastising anyone, just offering my 2 cents. One of the recurring and biggest problem that swingers face is that they decide what they personally like, or want, and then assume everyone else should choose the same path or they don't understand why how everyone else doesn't feel the same way they do. I've read the forum posts for years and the same questions recirculate on a regular basis. "Why don't people want to be the type of swingers we are?" "We don't want friends, we just want to have sex." "We don't necessarily want to have sex until we are friends." "We really only want friends but rarely play." All valid forms of the lifestyle and perfectly acceptable to different people. The lifestyle can take work. It typically isn't easy and will take some time and effort to achieve your lifestyle goals. Sure it's helpful to post your desires in your profile but I'm sure people read those only rarely, or maybe they are drunk searching, or maybe they can't read. :) There are all types. Try not to get frustrated because someone else isn't following you lead. Be patient. Within one or two convos you should be expressing your goals and figuring out the goals of the people you are trying to get to know. Get a system that weeds out the people you are't interested in, something that works for you. You will get better with time and hopefully someday what you are looking for will be much easier to find. However, until then, realize life isn't black and white, nor is swinging. There are as many varieties of swingers as there are ice cream flavors, or flavored condoms. haha. Don't expect others to want the same thing as you but certainly look for those that do. Be patient, kind and realize everyone is possibly looking for a different scenario than you. Some people love to send blind requests, some hate it. Right or wrong, it's life. Accept that there is mound of bullshit between you and that perfect couple/single male/female/trans/group/poly/donkey/toys only/DTF.... (Well, you get the point we are all looking for something different)that you are looking for. So don't be frustrated. Accept it will be a challenge and work on better ways to make your life easier. There won't be a good answer only many shades of grey. "Don't try to bend the spoon, for that is impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth... there is no spoon. Then you will see it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself." And to the single males that post ridiculous stuff? WTF? Ugh. You make us all look like mentally disabled Neanderthals. "Me have dick. Me like pussy. Stick it good."

What is up with Utah?! - Swingers in Utah and nowhere else? - you know what they say about people in Utah.........lol k & a

What do you like most about lifestyles? - - In theory, the lifestyle is perfect for us. We have never regretted starting this adventure and still believe that it is right for us. We have met some wonderful friends and have had many very erotic and fun experiences. Can you feel the "but" coming here. LOL. We are beginning to see the very things we came to the lifestyle to avoid popping up everywhere. Closed-mindness, judgment, and dishonesty are invading the ranks. It is our belief that the lifestyle is supposed to be about open-mindness, acceptance, freedom, and fun. Other words also come to mind like variety, new experiences, non-judgment, truth, love, and joy. BUT (there it is), not only are we judged by the "vanilla" world (and that is okay; we expected that), we are judged by our own. You are too fat, you are too old, you have tatoos, etc., etc. A couple actually told us that we were incompatible because I had tatoos. One on each arm- OMG! LOL. We realize that people have preferences, but come on, two tatoos? It is not like I am the illustrated man. My point is this: let's not judge each other when we don't even know each other, let's not create social classes within our lifestyle, and , for God's sake people. let's be honest with each other. If you are on a swingers site to get your rocks off by cyber-chatting, then disclose to others what you are doing and wanting. Don't tell people you are going to meet them when you have no intention of doing so. Don't act like you are a couple when you are a single male or a cheating husband. Most of us are doing this to meet good people and have good sex. Let us do that without having to wade through dishonesty and hypocrisy. Let's do what we came here for--HAVE FUN! We love the lifestyle and, for the most part, love the wonderful people we have met. Let's keep it going and not ruin it.

Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - [quote=SUENDAN]This was Harley's final and absolute fantasy on Suicide Squad. [img]https://i.imgur.com/pi2d8rs.png[/img] Women rarely fantasize about the carnal and brutal side of sex men obsess about 24/7. Women dream about protection, stability, health, family life, abundance of resources, being respected and being married to a nice guy, good provider and overall, happiness. It is us men who plant those seeds of complex, open and spicy sexual relations of them. And 99% play along initially out of fear of abandonment by her man. Women are hardwired to have their men interested in her by often providing recreational sexual activity. That's why they usually go along with swinging and that's why they tolerate and sometimes welcome men's extra-curricular activities of him fucking a FWB, hallpassing him or allowing him to shred his cock into pieces to online porn. She feels safe he will not leave her while getting him off her hair for a bit while she runs the household and relaxes. Is a win-win situation for her. Women are often advised to "spice up their loivelife/marriage" to keep her man interested. Men are always advised to take care of his wife/family or face consequences. In conclusion, women do not fantasize about sex the same way men do. They rarely fantasize unless the seeds have been planted by a male. Same way heroin will cause you an immense pleasure the first time you try it but we all know we rather don't try it. Women just want to have a long, relax and beautiful life surrounded by abundance and a loving family. So, Mr. EvilDoers, the purpose of those interesting books you are reading were just to be sold and to make money for the author. The author simply found inspiration on a supposed ideal yet fictitious reality. Not everyone likes them, not everyone agrees. But the actual truth too far from it the same way we'll never see the Death Star opaquing our moon. [/quote] Sorry, I call out your bullshit theory on women. Women do want that but, not all swinging women do swinging because of feeling insecure. There are numerous types of swingers, and exhibitionist. All wanting to explore themselves in open world. To assume swinging is forced upon by the man for the women is also one sited. I think this man asked a great question about what do women think? I think this will be a fun topic to see. Instead of side tracking what he asked to hear about. You went on to assume he was not understanding his own question. His question was simple. He asked what do women want? What do they think about sexually? He did not ask what you thought of any books. Just an idea of what is in your secret garden. Let the women talk!!! Sorry if offended but, I want to know what women do think of? I for one am a women. Sex is natural for us. We reap with it. But, for men it is different. Way different. I wanna hear you women ROAR!!!!

Thinking of checking out UTAH - Been on this site for awhile, seems like the partys over in Utah - Well, CBUTAH, some of the best people, period, are in the lifestyle. I don't mean the lookie-lous, or people who jump in just because they think anyone on a swingers site will fuck anyone of the right sex that asks. Even though some folks seem to think there are lots of those types, and there are a number of them, they're outnumbered by the real people, the ones who are essentially honest, who are open-minded, accepting and considerate of the feelings and desires of others, and, perhaps most of all, who are intelligent and who think for themselves instead of just following the crowd in whatever direction is the most popular at the moment. Those are the people who make it a real community, not just a bunch of sex hungry whatevers. The others, who are here just for whatever sex they can get and don't give a damn for anything but their own personal pleasure, well, they usually don't get a lot of that pleasure, not over the long run, and mostly they eventually either manage to give themselves away or get tired of trying with little or no result, and then they leave. And for YOUNGCHARM, what do you mean by "check out" Utah? You're in Illinois. If you mean to check it out strictly online, I'm not sure what you'd get from it. While there are certainly people who enjoy sexting, sex chat and sex camming, I think the majority of people want to meet people in the flesh. If you're hoping to meet someone online, and then visit Utah to hook up, well, there just aren't millions of people who will make a for sure hookup commitment with someone they've never actually met. Many will do a "I like what I see, and I think we'd probably click and hook up, why don't we meet and see what happens?", but there's no actual certain commitment in those situations, and Illinois to Utah would be a pretty long trip if it turned out to be for nothing. The only other possibility I can think of would be if you came here and spent at least a couple of weeks and went to some Meet N Greets or events that were open to everyone. But many of those "open" events bar or restrict single males, and single males aren't usually terribly successful at the first few Meet N Greets they attend. The one way I can think of that it would likely work well is if you have a girl friend who'd like to swing who came to Utah with you. Then you could participate as a couple in whatever events were going on while you were here, and if you were here long enough might even get invited to some house parties, and would be pretty likely to enjoy the visit. IS that what you were thinking of? I'm discounting actually moving here, I just can't imagine anyone doing that for no reason other than to check out the local swinging community. ~ Terry

SM's and Bootycall Postings.. - Really guys.. get a clue. - This is Lia...specifically. Single males?...hmm..I've had plenty of single males over the past 5 years who make their pointless attempts at hooking up with me and or my husband in a three way scenario. Granted, I am about as adventurous as you can get. I have no specific problem with the single guy hitting on me, but the drama that tends to wrap itself around me after is just something I don't need or want. I was very into a single guy a couple of years back and he did actually become one of my best friends to this day and is now married, but that, in itself, was riddled in drama created by nosy, big mouthed people who always want to start shit instead of minding their own business. If you decide you like someone for a while and are seen with them more than not, people say you are "exclusive" and try to put false damage on your marital status. Get a life, assholes. So...single males?...Enjoy yourselves...be respectful...and don't get too excited thinking you're every married couples answer to their failed marriage..swingers, when they are stable, are out there for fun. We may want the occasional single, we may not. It's about choice. My choice, at this time, is to refrain from said single guy, lol...but kudos to those of you "gettin some"...it's all in fun. Or at least it's supposed to be.