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Finding a balance - Swinging and Religion - - This has always been a tough controversy. Religion, swinging. I am agnostic and my GF was LDS. Her family is hardcore LDS still and pushed the faith on their daughter (my GF) and her kids even. They preach that they want their whole family in the religion cuz they need to know "right from wrong". I asked the kids (8 & 6 yrs old) what they learn in church.. seems to me all they learn about is how great their "savior" is, how he loves us, and we can look to him, and family is a "unit".. they dont seem to learn anythign about right and wrong. Yet.. her parents try to preach to me that their religion teaches them right from wrong and that their "right & wrong" is the correct one. They are also very controlling, judgemental, pushy, 2-faced, and negative in every aspect... OMG! is this what u learn in church and how family is supposed to be?? They found out we swing, and told me its adultry and we're cheating and its immoral.. OK, umm.. we;re not married and what we do is 100% consentual... funny, but seems like the more LDS we meet, the more seem to be JACK mormons. so why are LDS swinging or why are swingers in religions that condem it? is it just for the prestige and status of being in the church and to shut the family up?? Ok, #1, I hate ppl who follow a faith and feel theirs is the correct one so much that they push it on everyone and judge other beliefs as the wrong ones rather then understanding tolerance and the fact that there is no such thing as right or wrong... only opinion and difference... what works for you may not work for me. #2, I hate hypocrates. ppl who preach about how much they follow their religion, go to church and lie in front of everyone there about how much they follow the rules and how the church has saved them.. Then, behind closed doors, they go against everything they believe in. Then they preach about how much they follow their churches rules and its "right & wrong" is the ultimate. Those ppl are called liars and 2-facers.. #3, Kids should be taught "Right & Wrong" from their parents, not a group of ppl that i described in examples #1 & #2. WTF do they know?? Kids should also be introduced to church by their own choice and when they are old enuf to understand it. [b]In my opinion, If you wanna swing, then it doesnt seem like u really believe in ur church's beliefs... why are u in it? If u believe ur church's teachings above all.. then why are you swinging?[/b] [b]I have nuthing against either, but I think its best to pick a side. Thats why I dont follow any religion.. I dont believe in any of them... too many hypocrates, liars, 2-facers, judgemental, stuck-ups... people who are willing to bend and cheat their own rules, morals and beliefs behind closed doors and especially when its to their benefit...[/b]

What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - Just some advice, we respect that you are quite obvious of what you are seeking in your profile, however I do have to say that the forum you are seeking friendship from may not be the best one to accomplish what you are seeking. Since this is a lifestyle forum, most people are seeking others who want to participate with them in the lifestyle, if we make new friends in the process that is a bonus. So if you are not looking to participate in the lifestyle, then you may be better off checking out a "vanilla" couples group. Just our 2 cents

Lake Powell Party 2012?? - - [quote=WYSONGDOG]We are there now but not for the swingers, Have the entire family for our annual family vacation. But either way it's a kick ass trip. Hope everyone that is there is having a great time. We're camped in rock creek if anyone needs anything. A fall trip would be cool tool[/quote] I just got home from there last night.. Hot but the water is great! With the water level where it is, the big cave on the West side of Rock Creek should be accessible. Great place to hang out on the water in the shade! As for a fall trip, I know there is a big Poker Run being held out of Antelope Point the weekend of 9/15 that we will be running in. Should be a fun time then too (then again, Powell is always fun)

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - What are morals? Do morals really exist? Can swiners really claim that they are moral individualls. Are you more moral if you believe in God or less if you do not. I wonder what you think and how moral we really are.

Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - I am a Pony Man! 1969 Mach 1, 428 Cobra Jet, shaker. 1972 Mach 1, 351 Ram Air 4V. Would send Pics if I could figure out how to attach!

Observations from the other side of the room - Some unsolicited advice - [quote=EVILDOERS]All good advice. You should give seminars to the GAZILLIONS of single males who think female swingers are nymphomaniac, wanton sluts who will fuck anyone, any time, anywhere and that their husbands/partners are pathetic, impotent cucks who don't know how to please their partners and need a "real" man to satisfy their wives/girlfriends. You could make BANK teaching the utterly clueless how to act like a gentleman and do a service to the lifestyle by helping to weed out the twatwaffles who have no business even ATTEMPTING to enter a lifestyle they know nothing about and should leave immediately![/quote] That's a really good idea! I am no authority but I agree that Utah guys have a bad reputation. I have heard similar stories from friends on vanilla dating sites where the guy just wants a one night stand. I am glad that my post was read and responded to. I agree that my comments are common sense as well. Unfortunately, common sense isn't all that common. Any suggestions on what to name my seminar?

Too Many Fake People Here - Nobody really wants to fuck! - [quote=FIT_N_FUN][quote=TIFFND][quote=FIT_N_FUN]It's important to remember that you're swimming in a very shallow pond here. There aren't many actual members on this site. It's like growing up in a very rural area where K-12 is all housed in one building. By the time you graduate, you've pretty much fucked everyone that was willing to fuck you. The actual numbers in your area (meaning REAL people behind the profile) do not support a robust lifestyle community. It's a bit like going to a carnival with only two rides. One you've ridden them, there's nothing left to do. [/quote] You make a good point, but the pond here is pretty deep! LOL Just done a quick search, and the their are well over 4,000 profiles listed within 11 miles of my house. And that does not include some very large areas north and south of us. I realize many are fake, inactive, etc...but should still be a fair number of them active![/quote] Not a fucking chance. That is ALL bullshit. We lived in Draper for years and we're very familiar with the puddle of ACTUAL members in your area. If you have 4000 profiles just in your area, one of the least populated states in the country, this site would be exploding with activity. It's not. Nationwide, this site rarely shows more than 1650 people online at any given time. In the entire country. Swingular has a bot program that constantly generates fake profiles all day, every day. They're pretty easy to spot. This site is only relevant along I-15 between Ogden and Spanish Fork, with a few stragglers in the region as far as ID, WY and NV. Swingular also activates dead profiles and allows them to show as "being online" when they aren't. The whole thing is a farce. [/quote] We've been on Swingular since it was a beta. There ARE a LOT of swingers (of varying activity levels) in Utah...probably due to the repressive nature of the local religion as much as anything. We've been active in the swinging community for 30 years here and in a number of different states and can attest to the fact that, per capita, Utah has a comparatively large, active and vibrant swing scene. We've personally met (but not necessarily played with) hundreds of different couples and we're really not all that active as far as attending parties or going to meet and greets or even meeting people thru the site. I don't know for certain if Swingular has "bots" but I'm fairly certain that if it did it would be quite easy to tell by seeing replicated photos, etc. It's easy to reverse Google a photo on Swingular and see if it's a stock photo or taken from another site. If there is another way that you're able to "spot" fake/generated profiles please enlighten the rest of us so that we can see your proof.

network swingers - - It will be the new up coming tv show called "Swingtown" on CBS I believe starts june 5th

Memorial day weekend swingers party in tooele. - (READ FULL POST) Hosting our first party the weekend or memorial day on saturday the 25th - Ok so attempt 2: after we tried for the 11th only to have my wifes work made it impossible to do. We are now having our swingers party on saturday the 25th during memorial day weekend. This will be a super chill atmoshpere and will not be a massive open door party. We have a few guest already but welcome some more for sure. This party will be at our house in tooele. We will have several rooms set up for hangingout/playing. Along with drinks and naughty games as well. So please enjoy yourselves. That said, there are some rules and disclaimers that we want out there 1) if you play use protection. We will have latex and non-latex condoms for use. 2)No means no. If a couple or single females tells you no do not push your luck. 3)this is a party, come to our house ready to hangout. Not to fuck. We have neighbors and lives. 4) any rooms labeled do not enter... do not enter. (Mostly our kids room and the garage) 5) respect each others rules. If a couple wants to play but shes not into anal then no anal also if there is someone not wanting to be recorded or pictured then dont. Disclaimers!!! 1) alcohal is available that being said we expect a very late night if you need to crash or sober up please do so. We will not be responsible for drunk drivers so if you cant drive sleep or better yet fuck it off ;-) 2) we are not open to single males!!! We have some already in mind if we feel we dont have enough couples. They will be contacted if we should allow it. Dont contact us asking to join. You wont. 3)this is open to all couples but we are in tooele. If your willing to make that drive then your welcome to come. If you live in tooele all the better. 4) do not reply to this post saying "i'm in" directly message us please Thats is all hope to see some of you there

So are you the gal who folks suspect? or the last person they c - Wish we could do polls on here??? - (Jamze) My parents know we are swingers. Ironically, they are even members of this site. No, we aren't true to the redneck stereotype! Lol (Jami) Her sister knows and wasn't surprised in the slightest but her parents do not know, at least not outright. If they did, they wouldnt ask or even talk about it. They tend to be silent Mormons who refuse to talk about sex with their kids. Oddly enough, we both agree. Talking to them about our sex life would be a little like talking to the pope about our being Pagan or something like that.